It’s war. War has unfortunate and unavoidable casualties. Israel didn’t choose this war and has done everything it can to avoid it. Including pulling out unilaterally from the entire Gaza Strip in 2005.
The Palestinians were left to govern themselves and elected Hamas. Hamas has received hundreds of millions of dollars in aid from all over the world, including Israel. Israel supplied water, electricity, gas, fuel and work permits in Israel. Yet, instead of Hamas choosing to build civilian infrastructure and help the Palestinians, the leaders embezzled millions and the cose to build rockets and terrorism infrastructure and pay terrorist salaries.
Israel stood by and watched the world turn a blind eye, again and again, to rockets being fired i to civilian populations. Name one country that would allow that to happen to them and wouldn’t retaliate. We’re done with the so-called “proportionate responses”. What is the proportionate response to decapitated babies? To butchered toddlers? To kidnap and rape, and abduction of the elderly?
There is no peace to be made with an organization that lives up to it’s charter claiming its intentions to kill you.
Israel and the Jewish people swore that the holocaust would never happen again.
Fuck off. 50% of the people in gaza are minors. Minors israel keeps killing. Israel has done nothing to prevent escalation. They steal more and more land and shoot people from the safety of their walls. Both sides in this conflict, the Israel government and Hamas are the exact same level of inhuman.
Israel and the Jewish people swore that the holocaust would never happen again
Except it is with Israel as the perpetrators
Hamas is ISIS and needs to be eradicated
So what sort of solution are you proposing? A final one perhaps? Daesh and Hamas are not related, but I guess to racists all vaguely Muslim people are the same, eh?
TLDR: It’s impossible to be “vAgUeLy rAcIsT” to cultists at best, murderous war-mongers at worst.
Hamas and Daesh claim to follow the teachings of Islam. Islam is a religion.
One can’t be “racist” against followers of a religion.
Religions, among other things, are philosophical claims of divine origins in ontology and morality. Being an adherent is not determined by one’s genetic lineage, it’s determined by choice, and usually coercively.
Any religious philosophy absolutely demands scrutiny from anyone with critical thinking skills. Religions don’t deserve “automatic respect” their proponents seek, especially the monotheistic ones.
The “final solution” for civilization is a clear one: reject, fight, and deny the parties of god(s). Don’t legitimize their political, scientific, and moral claims. They don’t care about anyone else’s. They’re here to impose their will and they don’t hide it.
Otherwise the jews, christians and muslims will get to do what they’ve always done: drag the rest of the world into their carnage and slaughter as they hate-fuck each other into the Armageddon they seek, by their own admission.
In their own words, “they love death more than we love life”, will kill, and clearly have before, to prove it. Even their own. Especially their own.
Westboro Baptists are Christians, Christian is also a religion, ergo…
You’re still a bigot. There’s probably racism in the mix, but I’m kinda done with this exchange. You’re legitimately using white supremacist talking points and you probably don’t even realize it
Westboro Baptists are Christians, Christian is also a religion, ergo…
You’re still a bigot.
Wtf?
I’m a bigot because Westboro Baptists are Christian?
Wat?
But I’m using white supremacist talking points?
I’m brown IRL and the only thing I hate more than god-botherers are the “white-is-right” mouth-breathers, eRgO I’m definitely against them too.
Let me spell it out for ya, skippy:
Ya can’t be racist or a bIgOt against a religion or religious people.
A religion is a moral philosophy and a belief in how existence works; something ya gotta choose to believe in.
You can’t choose your ethnicity or where you were born, or a lot of other traits. You can choose your religion and what you believe.
And if what you choose to believe in is cruel, murderous, cultish, abusive, etc., and you think it’s okay because god is on your side, you’re at the very least a bona fide asshole…
… And deserve disrespect, ridicule, contempt, and an ass whooping if you try and push your flappy-gum “you need to _____, because my invisible friend god said so.”
I mean do you really believe the whole Israel-Palestinian conflict is made better or worse by the zionist and/or conservative jews and the wahabi/salafi islamists?
Daesh and Hamas have the same agenda - killing everyone different than them. Decapitation, rape and indiscriminately murdering innocent families in their homes. Add to that the Muslim factor and you have your similarity. Both ISIS and Hamas are much more ghan “vaguely Muslim”. Calling me a racist doesn’t change those facts.
The solution is eradicating Hamas like ISIS was (mostly) eradicated. Did you cry racism when war was being waged against ISIS?
Riiiight… Palestinians “chose” this war by not blinking out of existence as soon as Europeans initiated a genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist project on the land the Palestinians happened to be living on.
I guess you don’t realize that there are a good portion of Israelis that are not white.
Immigrants from Arab countries, Ethiopia, India, and others. These Jews were persecuted in their countries and suffered from pogroms and murders against their population there. In a similar situation you would call anyone else “refugees” yet somehow these Jews are called colonists and white supremists?!
It’s not genocide, it’s self-defense /s
Why the /s ?
It’s war. War has unfortunate and unavoidable casualties. Israel didn’t choose this war and has done everything it can to avoid it. Including pulling out unilaterally from the entire Gaza Strip in 2005.
The Palestinians were left to govern themselves and elected Hamas. Hamas has received hundreds of millions of dollars in aid from all over the world, including Israel. Israel supplied water, electricity, gas, fuel and work permits in Israel. Yet, instead of Hamas choosing to build civilian infrastructure and help the Palestinians, the leaders embezzled millions and the cose to build rockets and terrorism infrastructure and pay terrorist salaries.
Israel stood by and watched the world turn a blind eye, again and again, to rockets being fired i to civilian populations. Name one country that would allow that to happen to them and wouldn’t retaliate. We’re done with the so-called “proportionate responses”. What is the proportionate response to decapitated babies? To butchered toddlers? To kidnap and rape, and abduction of the elderly? There is no peace to be made with an organization that lives up to it’s charter claiming its intentions to kill you. Israel and the Jewish people swore that the holocaust would never happen again.
Never again means never again.
Hamas is ISIS and needs to be eradicated.
Fuck off. 50% of the people in gaza are minors. Minors israel keeps killing. Israel has done nothing to prevent escalation. They steal more and more land and shoot people from the safety of their walls. Both sides in this conflict, the Israel government and Hamas are the exact same level of inhuman.
Consider reading or listening to this on the question of moral equivalence:
https://www.samharris.org/blog/the-sin-of-moral-equivalence
And what exactly hamas did to prevent escalation?
When did that happen last time?
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No, I mean the “stealing land” thing.
Oh deary, deary me… my bad.
Here it is.
Thanks.
And how exactly does this make it okay to attack Israel to get more Palestinians killed as the only result?
Sooo… Palestinains should just be quiet while they are exterminated, eh? Is that what you’re peddling?
modern day nazi propaganda
Glad we’re able to see it for what it is.
It looks like reddit is overtaken by zionist propaganda. Most of the upvoted posts on /r/worldnews are cheering for the murder of children.
Israel already killed more kids, on top of all the kids they killed this year, and they’re still killing more.
Nobody over there cares. I think that site is done.
With how reddit told the blind community to sit on it and spin I’m not surprised it became a cesspool
Honestly, feels like the smarter portions of Reddit all migrated to lemmy.
Big sites like reddit are dominated by bots on these topics.
Not people.
Would you have the same response if it was said about the KKK?
Except it is with Israel as the perpetrators
So what sort of solution are you proposing? A final one perhaps? Daesh and Hamas are not related, but I guess to racists all vaguely Muslim people are the same, eh?
TLDR: It’s impossible to be “vAgUeLy rAcIsT” to cultists at best, murderous war-mongers at worst.
Hamas and Daesh claim to follow the teachings of Islam. Islam is a religion.
One can’t be “racist” against followers of a religion.
Religions, among other things, are philosophical claims of divine origins in ontology and morality. Being an adherent is not determined by one’s genetic lineage, it’s determined by choice, and usually coercively.
Any religious philosophy absolutely demands scrutiny from anyone with critical thinking skills. Religions don’t deserve “automatic respect” their proponents seek, especially the monotheistic ones.
The “final solution” for civilization is a clear one: reject, fight, and deny the parties of god(s). Don’t legitimize their political, scientific, and moral claims. They don’t care about anyone else’s. They’re here to impose their will and they don’t hide it.
Otherwise the jews, christians and muslims will get to do what they’ve always done: drag the rest of the world into their carnage and slaughter as they hate-fuck each other into the Armageddon they seek, by their own admission.
In their own words, “they love death more than we love life”, will kill, and clearly have before, to prove it. Even their own. Especially their own.
Westboro Baptists are Christians, Christian is also a religion, ergo…
You’re still a bigot. There’s probably racism in the mix, but I’m kinda done with this exchange. You’re legitimately using white supremacist talking points and you probably don’t even realize it
Wtf?
I’m a bigot because Westboro Baptists are Christian?
Wat?
But I’m using white supremacist talking points?
I’m brown IRL and the only thing I hate more than god-botherers are the “white-is-right” mouth-breathers, eRgO I’m definitely against them too.
Let me spell it out for ya, skippy:
Ya can’t be racist or a bIgOt against a religion or religious people.
A religion is a moral philosophy and a belief in how existence works; something ya gotta choose to believe in.
You can’t choose your ethnicity or where you were born, or a lot of other traits. You can choose your religion and what you believe.
And if what you choose to believe in is cruel, murderous, cultish, abusive, etc., and you think it’s okay because god is on your side, you’re at the very least a bona fide asshole…
… And deserve disrespect, ridicule, contempt, and an ass whooping if you try and push your flappy-gum “you need to _____, because my
invisible friendgod said so.”I mean do you really believe the whole Israel-Palestinian conflict is made better or worse by the zionist and/or conservative jews and the wahabi/salafi islamists?
Awe shucks, guess “dAsS raYciSs”.
🫵🤡
Daesh and Hamas have the same agenda - killing everyone different than them. Decapitation, rape and indiscriminately murdering innocent families in their homes. Add to that the Muslim factor and you have your similarity. Both ISIS and Hamas are much more ghan “vaguely Muslim”. Calling me a racist doesn’t change those facts.
The solution is eradicating Hamas like ISIS was (mostly) eradicated. Did you cry racism when war was being waged against ISIS?
Get off your high horse
The Jews took never again and turned it to we do it first. This isn’t war it’s extermination.
Riiiight… Palestinians “chose” this war by not blinking out of existence as soon as Europeans initiated a genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist project on the land the Palestinians happened to be living on.
Riiiiight.
I guess you don’t realize that there are a good portion of Israelis that are not white.
Immigrants from Arab countries, Ethiopia, India, and others. These Jews were persecuted in their countries and suffered from pogroms and murders against their population there. In a similar situation you would call anyone else “refugees” yet somehow these Jews are called colonists and white supremists?!
GTFO of here with that shit
Are you sure you realize that?
Gee whiz… black folk protesting because of white supremacist harrassment - I wonder why that sounds so familiar? Can’t quite put my finger on it…
No. You take your white supremacist colonialist apologia and shove it where the sun don’t shine, fascist.
Israel had segregated schools and was practicing eugenics on Ethiopian Jews in 2010 because it’s not a state for all Jews it’s a state for white Jews