An American citizen born and raised in California is unsettled after receiving an e-mail from the US Department of Homeland Security ordering him to leave the country “immediately.”

Aldo Martinez-Gomez received the DHS notice on April 11, threatening “criminal prosecution” and fines if he does not depart within seven days.

Martinez-Gomez works full-time assisting immigrants in court for a non-profit and believes his advocacy work may have placed him on the government’s radar.

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    Martinez-Gomez works full-time assisting immigrants in court for a non-profit

    This is quite the Hanlon’s Razor situation.

    There have been a number of US citizens who have received these emails, all of them do some kind of work related to immigration. It’s pretty clear that whoever sent out these emails just collected every email related to immigration work, and sent out a mass email. That satisfies Hanlon’s Razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

    But! The fact that they’re doing this without even a passing effort at accuracy, with no concern about getting it wrong, shows how it’s motivated by malice too. It’s the ICE version of a reckless homicide, they’re doing something they have to know would normally get them fired if not charged. But, they don’t care because the current racist administration is going to revel in the pain.

    So, it’s a weird situation where Hanlon’s Razor is both right and wrong.

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      The problem with “they’re just incompetent”, is that it let’s malicious people feign stupidity. And if it is a combination, it doesn’t matter which aspects are one or the other. They are dangerous all the same and shouldn’t be allowed to continue hurting people. But a combination of apathy, indoctrination, and infiltration means they’ll likely never see any real consequences. Or if they do, they were likely expendable and their excision doesn’t accomplish anything. People need to, at a minimum, vote. And preferably get more involved. Organize. Start local.

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      Basically you’re saying, attribute the email to stupidity; attribute the stupidity to malice.

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        I think anybody who wasn’t malicious would be very careful about this process. They would know that a mistake was possible and that they should triple-check everything they were doing. So, it’s more that the stupidity is the evidence for the malice. That, and the fact that there wasn’t a massive apology and attempt to correct the mistake when these news stories started coming out.

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          Anybody who wasn’t malicious would be very careful

          well. I mean, no. They could just be stupid.

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        People often forget with Hanlon’s Razor that stupidity is evil, and that evil is not always malicious.

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          Occam’s Razor comes from a 14th century priest who studied logic. It’s been gone over by philosophers in the centuries since and is generally considered valid.

          Hanlon’s Razor comes from a joke book published in 1980.

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            Hanlon’s Razor is basically a special case of Occam’s Razor.

            Making a mistake or doing something stupid is easy. Conspiring to do something malicious is not as easy. The simpler explanation is generally that something is a mistake rather than an elaborate conspiracy. So, Occam’s Razor says that the simplest explanation (a mistake) is probably the right one.

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            While true, the intent behind Hanlon’s has been expressed for millennia. The Principal of Charity (which was only named in the 1950s)

            Basically, never assume the worst about someone.

            The problem here is when there is actual malice. But that’s when Occam’s razor comes in.