• Thrillhouse@lemmy.world
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    People are checking out because the middle class is non-existent. It doesn’t matter how hard you work - the the prospect of getting ahead, owning a home, retirement is out of reach for the vast majority of people.

    People can work hard and stress themselves out or they can check out of the system and achieve largely the same result.

    This is about the failures of late stage capitalism. To claim the issue is free healthcare is gaslighting.

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      “Middle class” contrasts with “upper class” and “lower class”, not with “ruling class” and “working class”; it’s the wrong perspective.

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        It may be today, but a strong middle class is what placates the working class. Give em something to shoot for so they won’t shoot you.

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          “Middle class” IS working class. It’s a false distinction that only serves to undermine our only tool against the ruling class, class solidarity. (I think we’re kind of saying the same thing.)

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      Is he mad that young adults can stay on their parents’ health plan until age 26?

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    Look up the book “Hell’s Angel’s” by Hunter Thompson.

    There’s a section in the book where he writes about the economics of being a hippie/biker/artist circa 1970.

    A biker could work for six months as a Union stevedore and save up enough money to go on the road for two years. A part time waitress could support herself and her musician boyfreind.

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      That’s what these guys grew up seeing and reading, huh? So they’re trying to govern with assumptions that have not held true for decades.

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        No they are not governing. They are attempting to rule using rhetoric they know sticks with older generations. That’s it. Just gotta keep people voting and they will say and do anything to get those votes.

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        Nah, young folk these days just don’t want to work. They need to buckle down, pull on the ol’ bootstraps, and work a part time job at the factory while going to college. No reason that shouldn’t support a family of 4 with a single income!

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      I would take anything Hunter S. Thompson wrote with a massive grain of salt. He’s fun to read but gonzo journalism isn’t a great source for facts.

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        First, he wrote the book in the 1970s. People would have noticed if he was wildly off base.

        Second, you can do a quick search and prove his numbers were correct.

  • TooManyFoods@lemmy.world
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    Where are they getting free healthcare from? I’d like it. Oh does Canada have this problem? No? Huh

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      We still have widespread disengagement in Canada too because the problem isn’t the healthcare.

      The problem is wage suppression and corporate greed.

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    And rich people don’t have jobs because they mooch off poor people.

    Hypocrisy at its finest.

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    Where are they getting the money for the games? Those are expensive as shit, I’m still making do with games I bought decades ago because I can’t afford new ones.

    How are they eating? Food is fucking expensive, are they getting free food as well?

    How are they paying rent? Have to have a roof over your head and electricity in your walls to play video games all day.

    This mother fucker thinks all guys are like his son, lazy mother fuckers mooching off their parents. What a dumb, ignorant moron.

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      I think he might be speaking about 16 year old boys. He seems mad that they’re children instead of working father’s.

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      Only when you’re so poor (earn less than 15k/yr out 21k a year in some states) not having it functionally costs more money, but only so long as you follow all the bureaucratic rules to continually prove eligibility.

      And don’t forget, you still have to find healthcare providers that accept Medicaid, pay copays, etc.

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        In some states they don’t even have that. I’ve been seeking disability for six years in America for a partially broken back, with ten years of documented ongoing treatment at this point from childhood and my parent’s medical coverage (I can walk, but I’m stooped most of the time and get to live with chronic pain, yippee) and because I couldn’t get by on nothing, and got a part time gig that didn’t cross the threshold I still got my benefits denied. So like, in all technicality, though I see myself as an able-bodied young man and pursue an active lifestyle to make sure my weight doesn’t cause my spine to degrade and leave me fully paralyzed, I’m not even who this guy’s talking about, and I can’t get benefits through the current system. Now I’m just uninsured and planning to immigrate for education (and healthcare).

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    Free healthcare doesn’t pay rent or utilities. I would love to stay at home and play video games regardless of my healthcare status, but I simply couldn’t afford to.

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        Didn’t you know sex is bad? It’s absolutely reprehensible and the only allowable exception is for the purposes of procreation, where you are allowed only to use the missionary position and your lawfully wedded wife is to be completely obscured by a blanket covering her entire body apart from a small hole in her crotch area. You can not look down or touch her body with your hands at any point, you should be reciting prayer the entire time and preferably keep one hand on the Bible during the whole process.

        All other ways to engage with sexual acts and sexuality are unnatural, ungodly and frankly disgusting.

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    This is rich coming from someone that has literally never worked a days labor in their lives.

    Young men as a cohort have a 90% employment rate.

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    Sure. Let’s just pretend video games are free. And so is healthcare. Also, how much health care does he think young people use? This is a stupid argument.