Edit: When I say “Center Right” I also mean relative to Ferengi society.
A small addition to my post, Gender and Sexual Orientation in FERENGI society from a few months back.
I caught this frame in the background of LD S4 E6 Parth’s Ferengi Heart Place, depicting an unclothed Ferengi woman.
This provides an interesting insight into the Ferengi social/political landscape of the Nagus Rom era. It suggests a center right that is fine with women traveling in public to some extent (maybe with limits, like it can only be with husband or father or out of necessity), but not them being clothed. This doesn’t seem to be that common, as most Ferengi women we see in this episode (including on the television in Boimler’s apartment) are clothed, but it seems to be a position that exists.
Honestly, I’d be interested in a novel (perhaps written from the perspective of an autobiography) or something about how Nagus Rom and Leeta survived leading Ferenginar the first few years and adjusted to such a different role from his engineering days. We could learn a lot about the Ferengi political system.
Huh. I would have thought for the sake of including more female Ferengi on screen, clothing would have been adopted more widely. I figure that Zek’s reforms when he was Nagus might have had a bigger impact. Guess maybe Zek wasn’t as well respected?
It seems like a large majority of females wear clothes sort of thing. I went through the episode to see if there were any more. I found up to seven or eight more instances, with screenshots below (some of these may be unintentional duplicates from different perspetives.:
Interestingly in the first one, she is with an older man, suggesting that she might be an older woman, although we also see an older Ferengi woman in the background as well who is clothed.
Re-evaluating the original image I posted, I notice that the person the unclothed woman is sitting with is drawn like a lot of other Ferengi women, which suggests she might be meeting up with another woman, possibly a friend or a daughter. Unfortunately, it’s not high-enough quality on my end (I’m limited to 480p by the Paramount jerks) to make out if the unclothed Ferengi is an older or younger women - maybe it’s clearer on someone’s Blu-Ray set.
Overall, wow, this was a weird way to spend an evening. I’m even less proud to say I did this than when I did the Kim counting a few months back.
I would assume Rom wouldnt force them to be clothed. Just allowed them to do so and most did.
They might have chosen to do so automatically. It’s a lot easier to earn a profit if you look like a presentable businessferengi, especially when you’re not going to be fined for wearing said clothes.
Also, Ferenginar is rainy, so I imagine most wouldn’t want to go out into the rain nude.
Even more conservative ones might have rain coats they take off inside.
My favorite thing about this episode is that the name is a reference to an amazing show and for absolutely no reason I can figure out.
Well it is the greatest work of literature put onto film ever, written by the most prolific writer in history who is a modern version Shakespeare, Garth Marenghi.
I’m Parth Ferengi. Author. Dreamweaver. Visionary. Plus actor. You’re about to enter the world of my imagination. You are entering my Heart Place.
A truly feminist society would allow women to choose a traditional gender role but not force it upon them.
Wheel of time not femenist then?
I know what some of those words mean!
Wheel of time is written by a horny progressive man in the 90s. It is feminist at parts, but a lot of the female power in it is heavily femdom coded
It was feminist the same way early wonder woman comics were.
I guess that interpretation depends on how much free will anyone has in a world where “the wheel weaves as the wheel wills” and “the pattern” is a metaphysical? real? thing that can be manipulated and even destroyed. In other words, “fate” is a force like gravity in that world.
If “fate” says you can’t be what you want to want to be, does it matter what gender you are?
There role was forced upon them at least in the current era, men were equal in the last ine but cant access the power anymore without it corrupting them, which is why its purely woman in power for the most part thousands of years later, it was forced upon them technically
