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Yes, this means a ton of carbon ends up in the atmosphere instead of in the trees. The right move would be thinning and prescribed burns, but this administration isn’t going to do that.
Finally, a good move by Trump. Those trees are taking up incredible amounts of water. This is water that could be used for more productive things, like being mixed with Kool-aid powder on a hot day. Moreover, the trees emit large amounts of oxygen, a dangerous corrosive gas. Don’t listen to liberals – tree hugging is a dangerous activity that can lead to abrasions from all the bark.
If there’s anything I learned from Dr. Seuss’ “The Lorax”, logging can lead to impressive industrial and commercial activity and has no downsides.
These are our national Forests, they don’t belong to fascist billionaires like Trump and Musk! Resist, fight back, and let’s tell these Nazis they can’t strip our environment, government, healthcare and democracy to give tax breaks to rich people…
America is a dumpster fire lol, they have all these “checks and balances” but then one guy can just make all the trade policy and land use decisions by decree. What even is the point of their congress
The problem is that Congress is controlled by people who are Trump sycophants — the Republican Party kicked out everybody who wasn’t.
Problem is that both houses majorities support the lunatic, right now they’ve more or less given him a blank check to operate.
Historically, the two party system has meant that Congress either votes with the presidents wishes or against when it comes to legislation, but Congress doesn’t directly approve/disprove of executive orders. To oppose executive orders, Congress needs to pass laws that override the orders. That wont happen unless the majority becomes convinced they’ll lose elections if they keep supporting trump.
It’ll be up to the Judicial Branch to directly rule for/against this order. But the judicial branch only truly has power so long as the executive complies. We’re close to hitting the test of that power balance on some of his earlier orders.
Fun fact: the law enforcement of the Judicial Branch is technically an agency under the Executive Branch. Not a problem if people are largely operating in good faith with the law, or at least fear repurcussions if they don’t comply… But since Trump doesn’t fear repurcussion, this fun fact may be the oversight that breaks the consitution.
this is so fucking retarded. it is going to take longer than his term to build fucking logging factories and its going to cost millions of dollars. plus you have to hire these people and drivers. and guess what? since it’s “american” it will just cost more for some reason anyways like everything else “American made” does. what an actual joke for the sheep
I agree with everything you said… except the ableist slur. I have worked with special needs people and they can be some of the sweetest, most genuine, hardest-working people you’ll meet! Please ditch the outdated term, we need to be better than that…
Assuming the other half is where they plan to install the oil derricks…
Meanwhile we get shamed for not reusing the plastic containers we’re forced to purchase with our basic groceries.
May time and tide fuck a pres up the arse
Fucking murder this fuck
You’ve got to be careful how you word it lest the gestapo come for you. I will derive pleasure from reading his obituary though.
I will also say that 18 U.S. Code § 2381 says that he should be well, you know. Or fined and put in jail for five years but that’s not as fun.
I got a mod deletion the last time I said anything like this. Good luck and I fucking agree.
Fortunately this community is on slrpnk.net which might not have the same kinds of trigger happy mods as .world?
That is just… Insane. Incredibly sad.
The absolute level of stupidity of this is ridiculous. Lumber mills are not designed for old growth trees in the modern era, so all these trees will not even become lumber. Logging has become very sustainable in recent decades. They farm trees and mill them when they reach the size that the machinery at the mills is optimized for. If we just cut down all the forests, the mills can’t even process the logs even though it’s better lumber. In reality, they’d just send the old growth logs to be ground for pulp which is a total waste. This video does a good job explaining it.
I think Trump is clearing land for the techno-fiefs that Project 2025 wants to create among the head fascists. He hands out land parcels, gets a reacharound from Thiel and company.
Heil Praxis
Literally Saruman.
Revolt happened.
Saruman died on a spike.Mirror mirror on the wall, who is Nostradamus about Trumps fall?
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✍︎ arscyni.cc: modernity ∝ nature.Uhm, why can he just decide this? Not part of his expertise or departement.
Some national parks might be protected by legislation, such as the Yosemite Act of 1864, but massive amounts of land were protected by the executive branch such as Teddy Roosevelt protecting 150 Million Acres of forest and Joseph Biden protecting 674 Million Acres.
Then you also have Treaties with native americans which can be considered law if Republicans actually acknowledged them as such (they don’t).
That our government has been reacting to his shit rather than controlling it is infuriating.
Trump doesn’t like that the US buys lumber from Canada. He’s going to announce 34% tariffs on lumber from Canada in the next few days.
Other than the Pacific northwest most U.S. forest trees do not make good building lumber.
In addition to the blanket tariffs already announced? Seriously I think that guy might be an evil alien supervillain or something. He seems to be doing his best to ruin the world in any way he can.
I honestly would prefer that. I don’t want to think of Trump as a member of the human race. Plus, it would imply that the bad guys are actually competent. The Trump Regime isn’t just evil, it is weaponized secondhand embarrassment.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/us-hikes-softwood-lumber-duties-1.7503120
He’s out to cripple Canada’s economy, then he’ll attempt to invade it. True evil.
Cutting down old growth Forrest take 50 years to repair the area after its stopped. What a mess.
More like 150-300 if possible at all.
Way longer than that. What grows back is not old growth
Yep, can’t fix it in our lifetime
I thought i watch a video talking about 50 to 100 but its random YouTube guy soo you could be right and could very dependent on environment. Desertfication is hard to fix.
One of the many reasons I’m pissed at his voters every single day.
Then i guess it’s time to start living up to the old namesake.
What is it?
George Washington Hayduke is one of the four main characters in The Monkeywrench Gang written by Edward Abbey. They’re a group of anarchists that destroy things like earth movers to prevent logging or drilling, and just generally fuck with private companies profiting off of public lands.
Basically, they’re eco-terrorists.
You mean awesome. They aren’t scaring people, they’re stopping a rape. If that scares the rapists, it doesn’t make it terrorism.
I think half country would cheer for poison ivy right now.
I would, but only if you promise that she isn’t a package deal with a wing-suited billionaire who’s made a deal with the police and the nearest mental health institution to forcibly incarcerate anyone who stands against his ownership of the country. If we pay for the Poison Ivy package, can we get a discount on the Mr. Freeze package, where we get a disgruntled-but-brilliant climate-scientist-cum-virologist who will spray SO3 into the upper atmosphere and synthesize a strong enough volcanic winter to balance out anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions?
Love mr.freeze. favorite villain. Dude just needed funding to help his wife. It was society that didn’t fund his life saving research fault. I wonder if Wayne funded him if he back off. Which He kind of did in batman beyond until they tried to kill him.
I’d be happy with a half serving of sanity right now. As a treat.
Yeah probably 30% with another 30% saying this has no impact on their daily lives.
30% saying this has no impact on their daily lives.
“The eco-terrorists are just as bad as the Nazis!”
It worries me it could be either 30% we are talking about.
Trump is speedrunning to aim for the lowest biodiversity index in North America.
Maybe if we stop ridiculously subisidising corn everywhere, some that gets thrown away because we have way too much, we could replace a couple dozen sq km of corn fields with more sustainable agroforestry, and thereby massively increase our logging output, instead of yk, cutting down the last wildlife sanctuaries? Not holding my breath tho.
i comfort myself with the knowledge that most worlds are totally dead
zero wildlife is the normal state of things
extinction is only sad to the survivors, and soon enough there will be none left to mourn
These are our forests. They belong to the US people. They’re being stolen from us. For private profit of a few.
It’s an American tradition.
I mean, as the other guy pointed out, you as a people stole the fucking lot and literally massacred thousands upon thousands of people to do it.
Shoe’s on the other foot now, eh?
Ah yes, because native Americans celebrate the raping of their lands as long as the people who took it from them hundreds of years ago descendants (unlikely, given how many generations are immigrants) are also having their lands raped too.
Get the fuck out here with this brain-rot level argument. 🤦
Go stir the pot somewhere else.
that shit didn’t stop happening ‘hundreds of years ago’ natives are getting fucked over by America regarding land rights as we speak
fuck off yourself
obviously you wouldn’t know this though because it only matters when it happens to you, typical privileged white america
You’re right in that it was a comment designed to “stir the pot”, if by that you mean, “make someone stop for a moment and consider their position in history”.
I agree that any right thinking person, of Native American origin or otherwise should be aghast at the current US administrations utter destruction of everything, from old growth forest to human structures of civilisation.
Reading it back, my comment sounds flippant and ignorant. That’s on me for commenting pre-coffee and smoke. 💛
Reading it back, my comment sounds flippant and ignorant.
I don’t think you all on .ee can help that, you seem to be solely a propaganda instance.
Have you even looked at my comment history to decide what kind of person I am, or did you decide that purely from where I registered my account over a year ago?
Have I seen you around yes, I believe we’ve even interacted before. That said no in don’t profile creep which is why I made a general statement I think I’m probably correct on.
Funny you say that from the padded room instance. 🤣
And Britain stole the world, what point does any of this make? What do you want done about it?
They did. And created and taught others some of the most reprehensible methods of population control and genocide the world has ever seen.
Acknowledging it rather than denying it. Learning from the darkest parts of our history, to never have it be repeated is what I want done.
Ignorance of our history is why it keeps repeating itself. Gestures widely
yea if 60% ish of America could self reflect we’d not be in the state we are today
Both times it was the government to the greatest extent.
“The government” offered money for the task, and thousands took that money and got on with the job.
“The Government” is people. Usually the worst, most manipulative self-serving people. It does what other people let it get away with.
You stole that whole country
Whataboutism.
2 wrongs don’t make a right.
Moot, pointless, argument.
This argument accomplishes what exactly? Aside from trying to just stir the pot or create culture war drama?
It’s okay for public lands to be raped and razed now? Because (like damn near all the land in the world, everywhere) was taken during war/conflict?
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the original comment was about ‘we’re being stolen from’ seems pretty relevant but I get how white America doesn’t want to think about it
that’s just your little opinion
A little opinion is appropriate in response to a small minded comment.
No one asked for yours anyway.
And are you mislabeling it as ‘small minded’ bcs it’s directly confronting your hypocrisy?
Looks like you’ve got a case of the projections.No one asked for yours anyway.
And who asked for yours? Are you just special?
And are you mislabeling it as ‘small minded’ bcs it’s directly confronting your hypocrisy?
LOL, I’m not an American.
Looks like you’ve got a case of the projections.
ROFLMAO I can’t even, ZERO self awareness with this bloke.
imagine feeling the need to get involved when you have no skin in the game
how about you watch your people get fucked a few generations and while it’s going on this moment people are complaining about your response over their hypocrisy
Ah, a troll.
“They’re gonna chop down national forests”
“bUt WhAT aBoUt ThE iNdIaNs???”
bruh
“bUt WhAT aBoUt ThE iNdIaNs???”
bruh
The opinion of people who write like this can’t be take seriously
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more like ‘now you care? lol’
Sorry I didn’t care 400 years ago. I’ll try harder.
it’s happening to native lands in the US while we speak, the fact you are not even aware earns the ‘lol’
How many cared when it was decided there would be an oil pipeline through the pittance they were relegated to? More land stolen, and everything around it polluted in time to add insult to injury.
Did you care then, just a few years ago?
I mean, people didn’t do nothing.
that’s better than nothing but that’s self interest and farmers were right to be worried
none of that changes anything on a national level nor changed the actual outcome so the criticism is still valid
Americans get real mad when confronted with their hypocrisy.
What country are you from, and how many people did it ship over to north america to colonize it?
lol this thread full of privileged white Americans is whining about takes and then you drop this and it’s upvoted
double down on the hypocrisy guys
yep
