• cooopsspace@infosec.pub
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    1 year ago

    Daily standups are fine, but they need to be like 10-15 minutes tops. And between 10am-1pm. Putting them at 9am sharp is just rude.

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      1 year ago

      A few jobs back the director was having daily standups with the whole dev team for 60-90 minutes and sometimes longer.

      The goal was to figure out why the project was behind schedule… yeah.

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        1 year ago

        What I used to do was make notes at the end of the day. Just a couple short bullet points to say at standup and help me get back on track a little faster the next morning.

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        Ugh. I hate being on the west coast of the US. Most office jobs start at 7 or 8 AM here.

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          God, I hear that…plus I usually need to meet with my coworkers in India, so I’m often needing to start meetings at 6 AM. I am nooooot functional that early

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            I usually had to do that for Europe. Most Indian coworkers I have worked with work a later schedule so there has always been a bit of overlap. Generally the Europeans I have worked with have been German and they generally have a labor rep on the board so they can fight against messed up work schedules.

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          That sucks.

          I sometimes work with west coat companies and the quiet time in the morning was great. It sucks having to be on calls at 8/9PM though.

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      Keeping the meeting short was the whole point of them being “standups” (as opposed to “sit-downs”) in the first place!

      Frankly, even 10 minutes is excessive: it means either people are talking too much or your team is too big.

      I’m fucking sick and tired of cargo-cult managers adopting the trappings of agile without understanding WTF they’re for.

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        1 year ago

        Ha! Yes.
        For the first time, we are trying out a full scrum team in our company, with an external “scrum master” who really seems to know what he’s doing. It’s bloody amazing. Small team, the daily meeting has yet to exceed 10 minutes and is usually <5 minutes, the planning and refinement meeting keeps everyone in the loop. The rest of the time I can just be a happy code monkey :)

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      My stand-ups are at 10 am (11 am for most of the team), last between 3 and 15 minutes depending on how many of the 7 of us show up and how much everyone has to say, then we all go back to what we’re doing. My project manager and boss both care about the work that gets done rather than monitoring us to make sure we’re working the entire time, and we actually get reasonable (even generous) timelines for most things unless it’s something super important.

      I love my job.

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        I’m the same way. If I could start work at 5:00 a.m. and be off by noon or 1:00 p.m. I’d be happy. It’s just hard to find people who want to do therapy at 5:00 a.m. 😂

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            I’m allowed to set my own hours, so if it was telehealth I could theoretically do late night or morning appointments if I want to. I just haven’t really thought about that. When I eventually have my own practice. I really do want to have weekend hours and evening hours, before I worked with a lot of parents and that was one of the biggest issues was when do you have time for therapy when you’re chasing a toddler. Or like I remember when I would have friends who worked as bartenders, they wished that they could do therapy after they got off work but sometimes that would be two or three in the morning.

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              Yep, I feel sympathy for people who work evening/night/swing shifts. I only did it sporadically but had no responsibilities at the time. Maintaining that for decades seems like it could be pretty difficult, especially for people with young families or who enjoy being active in their communities.