• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    13 days ago

    At least some definition of “Far Left” would be more: “we’re gonna get everyone’s basic needs meet by exterminating entire social groups because they’re impure”.

    What the hell are you talking about? “Exterminatidg entrire social groups because they’re impure” sounds very right-wing to me.

    Are you trying to peddle some weird horseshoe bullshit?

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      13 days ago

      @Prunebutt
      China? Khmer Rouge in Cambodia?

      I know the horseshoe theory is problematic, but it’s fact that some nominally “left” groups in practice resemble the “far right”; today’s China specially in practice resembles more Nazism than Communism.

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        I don’t consider China to be very left. It’s a capitalist country. The same goes for other state-capitalist projects.

        While there are authoritarian leftists, I think it’s wrong to act as if these where the only part of the so-called “far left”. How many genocides were committed by anarchists?

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          There are more figures on the far left than anarchists. You can’t just No true Scotsman Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

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            12 days ago

            Did those people try to deconstruct existing power structures while in office? That makes them counter revolutionary. The state is counter revolutionary.

            You can’t abolish maters by using the master’s tools.

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              12 days ago

              That’s just a No true Scotsman argument. Their (alleged) end goal was the creation of a classless, stateless communist society. They haven’t achieved that, and they wouldn’t have claimed to have achieved that. But they would’ve claimed that their crimes were a necessary step towards that goal. You can’t just brush aside the people most associated with the “far left” label, regardless of whether or not you personally feel like they are “undeserving” of it.