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Some impressive gymnastics going on with the guy you’re replying to…

What I remember people saying about Enterprise at the time was along the lines of “hadn’t they learned their lesson with Voyager?” 7 of 9’s outfit was an embarrassing thing non-trekkies would point to when characterizing Trek fans as “virgin nerds”.

On Reddit we actually had a rule that it was OK to ask “where do I start” or “how do I get my friend into Star trek” questions because someone would inevitably complain about “this again”. As if:

• Trekkies don’t love answering this question
• The existing Star Trek discussion boards on the internet weren’t gatekeepey enough…

“The decentralized web” …so… “the web”? Do they not realize literally anyone, even extremists, can make a Lemmy instance with spare parts and a wifi connection?

Left-wing extremists have been showing “substantial activity on Lemmygrad"

“Left wing extremists have been showing substantial activity on the website that was literally built for that type of content” What’s next? They “investigate” the amount of Trekkie related activity on StarTrek.website?

I think a far more interesting research subject is looking into the number of ostensibly non-extremist instances are hosting extremist content by virtue of federation.

Funny how the platform still runs on their unpaid labor, isn’t it?

Something I learned during the Vaxxhappened protest is just how many moderators are perfectly content to do these “jobs”. I found it honestly very sad how many of these what are ostensibly “community leaders” will happily acquiescence to the demands desires of the company as long as they can continue to do the job.

Don’t get me wrong I have a lot of sympathy for many of the moderators there who care deeply about their communities and providing a welcoming experience and feel stuck to Reddit, but until more of them grow a spine and idk, move to Lemmy or something like the top r/startrek and r/daystrominstaitute mods did (not me to be clear) then nothing of substance will change there. There is a seeming endless supply of people willing to clean up Reddit for free.

Maybe we didn’t achieve our goals in the way we set out to do, but we made a lot of friends (decals) along the way.

For future reference:

I never got much into the comics, anyone with experience know if these are a good place to start?

Lol “theme party” is great! A vision of the fediverse as multiple concurrent theme parties is something I can get behind.

Hey Blaze I know you’re a good dude and I highly respect your efforts in spreading Lemmy, I feel I should tell you with kindness that you have fallen for bait. The OP of that post has been banned (for over a year) for multiple violations (that I won’t discuss publicly because we don’t want to encourage harassment) and was given multiple warnings beforehand.

Since being banned, OP has been left alone, but created and continues to repeat a false narrative that they are a victim of abuse by one of our admins. They have spread this lie to multiple platforms (I will not link to them) in an ongoing campaign. Yes, OP considers reporting of their posts to be abuse (which is absurd on it’s face) but there has been zero communication publicly or privately since the ban.

I strongly encourage you to read through that post you linked and try to find an actual instance where OP was “abused”. They have been left alone since being banned, but continue to repeat lies and and spread their false and defamatory narrative.

Yes very well said all around and I agree, especially about consent. I also have to assume that a statistically significant portion of Lemmy users have been banned by multiple reddit communities.

Oh wow, now that’s very interesting.

I think it was extremely positive though obviously the people who were excluded by the decision might say otherwise. That said, I think it’s preferable for online communities to have a clear picture of what they’re supposed to be (as opposed to just chasing popularity), with a mission statement (public or not) and for mods/admins to have the strength to enforce boundaries. Trying to please everyone leads to banality, and tolerating too much bad behavior pushes out the people who give a shit.

I liked to use the metaphor that internet mods are best when they behave as “party hosts”: provide the space, make sure everyone is having a good time, kick out anyone who’s bringing down the vibe, but other than that let people be messy and do their messy human things.

More instances need to be aggressive with bans, IMO. There’s no reason the average user should put up with someone being deliberately obtuse, especially when it comes to politics.

If we for once, leave politics outside of niche and hobbies communities, this place would be way way better.

I think rather than asking users to behave a certain way (impossible) or asking mods to work with increasingly long meandering rulesets, we just accept than any topic can be political and it’s in how users discuss it that makes a place tolerable. And people have different ways they like to debate. Some people do really enjoy the bickering and fighting.

We banned all image-only posts on /r/StarTrek on Reddit a long time ago, not because we didn’t like memes or because they can’t spur good discussion, but because any place that allows memes and images to be posted tends to become overrun with them and it’s hard for more intentional human-human discussion to stand out.

That decision pissed a lot of people off, but we mods felt bad for all the people earnestly engaging with thoughtful high-effort content only to be ignored because their posts were never seen. I think on the Fediverse we have an opportunity to start fresh and focus on human-human. There’s no karma here anyway!

EDIT: more to your point I would like to see more “slow” instances pop up but I think that’s going to take some time.

Get you a show who can do both

The most difficult parts of moderating on Reddit aren’t the trolls or spammers or even the rule-breakers, it’s identifying the accounts who intentionally walk the line of what’s appropriate.

IMO only a human moderator can recognize when someone is being a complete asshole but “doing it politely”, or trying to push an agenda or generally behaving inauthentically, because human moderators are (in theory) members of the community themselves and have an interest in that community being enjoyable to be a part of.

Humans are messy, and finding the right balance of mess to keep things interesting without making a place overwhelming to newcomers is a fine balance to strike that I just don’t believe an AI can do on it’s own.