Looking forward to the comments saying this true but good, actually.

  • Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Kind of funny coming from the admin of an instance that goes around and bans people for no reason. Even funnier when yoy and VS tried to contact the admins of different websites to get me banned over there because you did not like me suggesting that the moderators and admins of your instance were abusive. Hell even other Lemmy admins can back that up.

    Corgana is SysAdmin on ST.W and, from what I recall, the owner of the domain. Keep that in mind when you see Corgi patting himself on the back.

    You’re the reason people leave your instance dude. This meme is hilariously tone deaf.

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      Same here … I just didn’t like the atmosphere there any more and jumped on Lemmy

      I realized that I jumped on Reddit years ago when it was smaller and less known and I grew with it over time … I thought the same thing about Lemmy and now I feel good about growing on this new platform.

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      I kept using infinity until about a year ago when I got banned. 3rd party apps continued to work, just had to fiddle a bit with your own API.

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    It’s not really the previously banned users that are the problem. It’s that the real heart and soul of Lemmy is c/2real4meirl or whatever - ie, depression memes.

    Reddit initially became popular because it was fun and interesting. Lemmy has picked up some of the old reddit crowd by being a bit more tech focused - but for the most point the links and comments posted are doom and gloom. Either AI is taking all our jobs, or its a huge scam. The world is run by evil capitalists who personally want you, in particular, to have a meaningless and miserable life. But don’t worry, because we, the proletariat, will overthrow them in a violent revolution… just as soon as we stop doom scrolling and crying in bed - haha, amiright guys?

    Nothing about this is fun or interesting. It is bitter, angering, and depressing. That is what drives people away.

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      AI is taking all our jobs

      Let me clarify a point there>>> It is corporations that are using “ai” to replace our jobs. We are not just a bunch of technophobic pessimists who have watched too many Terminator movies. What most of us can’t stand are the misuse caused by shitty company who want to milk as much as possible before the bubble burst. Without mentioning the tsunami of “ai slop” who is becoming the internet.

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      Feel free to be a part of the change that you would like to see. There are tons of uplifting communities. Examples of news ones include: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], (though [email protected] seems dead now) and specifically for positive memes there is [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], etc.

      And this is just specifically for positivity - there is also even more tons of niche content that is fairly positive or at least a lot more rarely negative like [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], and on and on.

      It also helps to block the entire instances of hexbear and lemmy.ml - to see why, just visit them and show Local content without being logged in. Their ideas of “positivity” include beheadings of anyone who has a bank account i.e. who remotely participates in society. Okay then, that’s their choice I guess… but you don’t have to participate in the 4chan-like experience.

      Yeah, people can be fairly negative, but you can choose what you see. Tbf, it helps to use PieFed’s far more robust set of tools than Lemmy e.g. a keyword blocker and a true instance block (rather than mere community mute) if you so choose.

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      Why are you scrolling the All feed outside of initial curation? Or following the depression meme communities?

      Just like on Reddit there’s a bunch of negativity but I’m following a butt load of fun memes comms, and wholesome stuff. I only tiptoe to /All for the occasional new article then hide in my subscription list again.

      I have way more memes in my feed on Lemmy than I did on Reddit, too.

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        I have way more memes in my feed on Lemmy than I did on Reddit, too.

        I don’t know about way more, but I don’t miss the tedious massively upvoted ‘TIL’ about some inane subject that should have been covered in grade school, or the semi-interesting gallowboob picture, or the ‘PSA’ that channeled the old school chain emails from grandma.

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        I pretty much only browse /c/all but I also block a ton of meme communities and depression posting accounts. Now my /all feed looks pretty good most of the time.

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      Yep. There’s been lots of depression posts disguised as funny haha posts. Some of you guys need help and you emotional dump on the rest of us.

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      Also, the furry animal fucking lovers and the barely disguised lolita porn, called “art” and “anime” respectively. Blocked that shit non-stop my first two weeks here, still pops up like whack-a-mole.

      No way would I suggest anyone visit lemmy or admit I’m a user.

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    The initial wave of users onto reddit clones often include a disproportionate amount of malcontents. A lot of people who don’t play well with others, who are banned from reddit (or at least banned from lots of subreddits) usually turn up first on these reddit alternatives and disrupt the community by repeatedly showing anti-social or disruptive, attention seeking behaviour. It’s not even necessarily related to any political persuasion. This stuff can collapse budding alternatives.

    The first wave of new users on reddit alternatives are, in my experience, more likely to have a lot of problem users and since the sites are so small, and usually sparsely moderated, they are much more disruptive than they would be on reddit.

    From what I can tell, the Fediverse has got past that.

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      It’s a matter of numbers and community.

      If you want to be a jerk, people will ignore you. If there are ten other people in the room, you can only be a jerk ten times before everyone in the room starts to ignore you.

      That’s the Fediverse, it’s a small community and word gets around fast with people who see and notice a bad character and start blocking them, their posts, their comments and their activity.

      That’s the thing about numbers … if you are a small group, word gets around quickly who the jerk is … if you are a big community, there are more systems in place to deal with jerks

      So the only way for jerks to survive … is to build a community of jerks for themselves … and surprisingly enough, those communities don’t last very long.

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        Yeah, indeed but some people are frustrating and objectionable in behaviour that doesn’t immediately lead to bans. Sort of malicious compliance, knowing where the line is. “I’m not touching you” behaviour. They do slowly get banned, but they can run rampant on communities for a time until they do.

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          That’s what blocklists are for. If you encounter a jackass account just block them. That way it doesn’t matter if they get banned or not.

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    I did get banned, for using ChatGPT to fix my spelling and then using an old account to go back, which was ban evasion. I’d been on it for 12 years. I guess the point is that the banned people on here these days are not necessarily batshit trolls, many of us are semi-normal :-)

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      I don’t think they’re saying everyone here was banned from Reddit. They’re saying everyone ever banned from Reddit is here…which, (gestures vaguely at my massive block list) isn’t an inaccurate statement lol.

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        We should have some kind of “block list” sport competition here on Lemmy playing by category:

        • Longest users list 🏆

        • Longest communities list 🏆

        • Most blocked user 🎖️

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          It helps to block whole entire instances. Some innocents may get caught up in that, but that is a sacrifice that I am willing to make.

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            This. The way I see it, if an admin can’t (or won’t) moderate their users, the problem can only get worse.

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              And it does. Then they seem shocked - Shocked I say, SHOOKETH! - when the same behavior that gets them many upvotes in their home instance is met with… “resistance” outside of their echo chambers.

              Blocking hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, or lemmy.ml will improve people’s experiences on the Threadiverse by 90% - while blocking all 3 raises that to >99.99%, although self-admitted alt accounts on more standard instances (such as [email protected]) remain to have to be blocked one by one.

              Nobody explains any of this to newcomers of course, which helps (it seems to me) explain the high rate of people leaving. Your instance https://startrek.website/ even has a huge, full-page advertisement from the Lemmy developers Nutomic and Dessalines, the latter at least seems to spend a great deal of his time moderating the users of a highly contentious political instance rather than editing the Lemmy sourcecode. i.e. a donation to that team goes a long way towards contributing to the formation of those very same echo chambers that drive Redditors away from the platform, rather than donations to the codebase being separate from donations to the lemmy.ml instance itself. I am not making this political - they are the ones who already made it political, I am just reporting that fact.

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      Lemmy is just software that anyone can use. Each Lemmy instance with open sign ups has their own rules. But even so- there would be no way of knowing which Lemmy users are equivalent to any reddit user without the user itself making it known.