It’s rare for corporate brands to become so intertwined with everyday conversation that they become verbs. It’s rarer still for the owner of such a brand to announce plans to intentionally destroy it.
An estimated $4 to $20 billion in value, what is he thinking?
yes but he built it in las vegas. It has a few stops and relies on teslas, each with a driver, and it functions as a very basic “public transit” system. Almost none of what he initially promised are present in the final design. Originally it was going to be his “hyperloop” thing. Then it was “autonomous vehicles.” Now it’s “teslas driven by people”
It’s largely been vaporware and reduced scope after promises made in an attempt to kill/distract local governments from investing in public transportation.
“I think public transport is painful. It sucks. Why do you want to get on something with a lot of other people, that doesn’t leave where you want it to leave, doesn’t start where you want it to start, doesn’t end where you want it to end? And it doesn’t go all the time.”
“It’s a pain in the ass,” he continued. “That’s why everyone doesn’t like it. And there’s like a bunch of random strangers, one of who might be a serial killer, OK, great. And so that’s why people like individualized transport, that goes where you want, when you want.”
Haha you are right, he did try to reinvent the subway!
And any of the problems he mentioned could basically be fixed by spending -more- on public transit, rather than less… with the exception of it leaving from wherever you want and there being other people (though the more they run, the fewer people need to take each).
That’s what bugs me about all of his “inventions”, is that they aren’t really new ideas, or even if they are they’re wildly expensive for the benefits. Cities like Vegas look at him and thought “Oh wow finally we’ll solve traffic with these new ideas!” when really they just need to invest in actual proven infrastructure like subways and commuter rail.
It’s well known that Elon pitched the hyperloop in California because he wanted to kill California’s high speed rail, because he’d rather have people buy Teslas then have an inexpensive fast way to travel between cities. He delayed the project for years over his wild claims, and people are still hesitant to it thanks to his selfishness.
Here’s a source for passing the capacity requirement during a test. Again I’m not saying it’s going to work when scaled but so far it seems plausible and was far cheaper than building a train or rail between the ends of the convention center. And it has the wow factor.
The big benefits are supposed to come once the vehicles can skip all other stops and go directly to the destination. We’ll see.
It was a capacity number set by LVCVA (the customer), but yeah. Not much else they can do yet since it’s a small system and events that take over the entire convention center are intermittent.
It’s definitely less than that. The advantages will be when you’re able to get in a vehicle and input your destination and it can go straight there without a single other stop. In theory at least. I’m not saying it’s genius but it’s an interesting concept and I’m curious to see if it works when scaled.
Given the short distance it goes and the fact that it has human drivers currently…I’m doubtful it’s going to scale at all. In its current iteration, a small train would have been better in just about every way. I wouldn’t praise it for what it will be, praise it for what it is, because Elon Musk loves to promise the moon and stars and not deliver on those promises.
Just trying to hold people accountable for their bullshit. Go fuck yourselves.
If I recall correctly, you tried to “hold me accountable” by claiming I was slandering him and coming up with lies, when in fact none of what I said was even a lie. In fact, you even said yourself that it gets backed up “sometimes,” which is what I mean by traffic jams.
It sounds to me like you need to learn what the word slander, actually means. Also, I reported this because it’s rude as hell.
wait he actually built that?
yes but he built it in las vegas. It has a few stops and relies on teslas, each with a driver, and it functions as a very basic “public transit” system. Almost none of what he initially promised are present in the final design. Originally it was going to be his “hyperloop” thing. Then it was “autonomous vehicles.” Now it’s “teslas driven by people”
It’s largely been vaporware and reduced scope after promises made in an attempt to kill/distract local governments from investing in public transportation.
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-awkward-dislike-mass-transit/
And an NYT article on it: Opinion - Elon Musk Has Some Bad Ideas for Mass Transit. We Have Solutions.
This makes the most sense. Man he’s trying really hard to not admit that a subway works pretty well, isn’t he?
Haha you are right, he did try to reinvent the subway!
And any of the problems he mentioned could basically be fixed by spending -more- on public transit, rather than less… with the exception of it leaving from wherever you want and there being other people (though the more they run, the fewer people need to take each).
That’s what bugs me about all of his “inventions”, is that they aren’t really new ideas, or even if they are they’re wildly expensive for the benefits. Cities like Vegas look at him and thought “Oh wow finally we’ll solve traffic with these new ideas!” when really they just need to invest in actual proven infrastructure like subways and commuter rail.
It’s well known that Elon pitched the hyperloop in California because he wanted to kill California’s high speed rail, because he’d rather have people buy Teslas then have an inexpensive fast way to travel between cities. He delayed the project for years over his wild claims, and people are still hesitant to it thanks to his selfishness.
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Got any sources for that? I’ve never seen anyone claim it’s a success
Here’s a source for passing the capacity requirement during a test. Again I’m not saying it’s going to work when scaled but so far it seems plausible and was far cheaper than building a train or rail between the ends of the convention center. And it has the wow factor.
The big benefits are supposed to come once the vehicles can skip all other stops and go directly to the destination. We’ll see.
So they passed the tests they set for capacity? Eh, not really impressed. Thanks though.
It was a capacity number set by LVCVA (the customer), but yeah. Not much else they can do yet since it’s a small system and events that take over the entire convention center are intermittent.
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Is it better than a light rail system, or would that not help sell enough products from a company owned by Musk?
At least provide a comment in good faith instead of sarcastic bullshit, this isn’t Reddit.
What is the capacity of the Vegas loop as compared to, say, an extra small subway or even an aboveground streetcar?
It’s definitely less than that. The advantages will be when you’re able to get in a vehicle and input your destination and it can go straight there without a single other stop. In theory at least. I’m not saying it’s genius but it’s an interesting concept and I’m curious to see if it works when scaled.
Given the short distance it goes and the fact that it has human drivers currently…I’m doubtful it’s going to scale at all. In its current iteration, a small train would have been better in just about every way. I wouldn’t praise it for what it will be, praise it for what it is, because Elon Musk loves to promise the moon and stars and not deliver on those promises.
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If I recall correctly, you tried to “hold me accountable” by claiming I was slandering him and coming up with lies, when in fact none of what I said was even a lie. In fact, you even said yourself that it gets backed up “sometimes,” which is what I mean by traffic jams.
It sounds to me like you need to learn what the word slander, actually means. Also, I reported this because it’s rude as hell.
You are making a mountain out of a molehill and cherry picking gripes. I am done with this shit.
Good. People like you are not welcome here