• 30mag@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Gonna be hard to get elected without being on the ballot. I don’t see how the republican party can believe they have any chance of winning with trump.

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      2 years ago

      I don’t see how the republican party can believe they have any chance of winning with trump.

      Most of the realistic ones don’t. The problem for them is that they have even less of a chance of winning without him.

      The MAGA wing has effectively split the party, but did so in such a way that either the moderates go along with whatever the MAGA wing wants, or nobody wins because the moderates don’t have the numbers to push anything through without the MAGA wing, and vice versa. And since MAGA has absolutely no problems with everything coming to a grinding halt and watching it all burn, the moderates have little choice but to do what MAGA wants if they want to be able to accomplish anything at all.

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        2 years ago

        Just to be clear, I was talking only about the presidency. If trump is nominated, I think the probability of trump being elected to the presidency is zero, or it will be zero when election day rolls around.

        I understand why there aren’t any republicans eager to show trump the door though. I think that is a mistake on their part, but I understand and agree with what you’re saying about that.

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          If trump is nominated, I think the probability of trump being elected to the presidency is zero, or it will be zero when election day rolls around.

          I said the same thing in 2016

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            2 years ago

            I’m assuming that the Dems won’t run Hillary again. If that happens, all bets are off.

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          If trump is nominated, I think the probability of trump being elected to the presidency is zero, or it will be zero when election day rolls around.

          I remember thinking that in 2016.

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            2 years ago

            Well, he’s lost an election since 2016 and as he says, “nobody likes a loser”.

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        2 years ago

        If only the system could accommodate more than two options. The US voting system is the biggest gerrymander in history but neither party wants to fix it.

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      They’re in quite a pickle. Half of them don’t want Trump, the other half will only vote for Trump (even if he’s in prison). MAGA is tearing the party apart and the house speaker situation is just the latest manifestation of that.

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        Recently, I think. I am sure other states will take similar action.

        I have a hard time believing that the republicans are stupid enough to give trump the nomination, but it is quite easy to underestimate how stupid people are.

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          we are where we are now because enough people are, in fact, that stupid.

          never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. -g.carlin

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        2 years ago

        Yes, but if Trump isn’t on the ballot some of the Trumpists who would have gone and voted straight Republican are going to stay home instead which could have an impact on close down-ballot races, like say Colorado’s 3rd House seat for example.

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        It’s actually considered a battleground state. Where it could go red if enough people don’t vote. Look where Boeberts from.