Summary
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused Donald Trump of living in a “Russian-made disinformation space” due to his administration’s talks with Kremlin officials.
He urged Trump’s team to be “more truthful” after Trump blamed Kyiv for the war and downplayed U.S. aid contributions.
Zelenskyy’s remarks came as U.S. envoy Keith Kellogg visited Kyiv amid shifting U.S. policy on Russia. Meanwhile, European leaders, feeling sidelined by U.S.-Russia talks, held emergency meetings.
Zelenskyy canceled a Saudi Arabia trip in protest.
Zelenskyy is completely right on here.
He isn’t, he is still polite to give Donnie a benefit of a doubt, like he is speaking like that because he’s got malinformed. No, Trump uses his position to exchange Ukraine and the security of Europe for whatever he was promised or he himself promised beforehand for his success in pres campaign previosly, so he just closes his debts. Zelensky couldn’t say that to Trump all other countries and his own nation are paper tokens he uses to play monopoly with his friends. Ukrainian defence depend too deeply on what Biden’s given them before so as a diplomat he doesn’t want to cross out the US even though he knows that with Trump they’d hardly get anything. And it’s not about the US specifically, it’s a standard that keeps every other donor comfortable to donate arms and money, setting the climate in which no random and immidiate decisions pass, unlike what Trump does.
Yah, Zelensky has blood on his hands. He’s responsible for a large majority of Ukrainian deaths, as Putin is responsible for Russian deaths. It’s Zelensky that has decided it’s ‘fight till death or NATO saves us’ while refusing to find other solutions. I feel nauseous when people call him a hero. He’s a power hungry ‘nice guy’ who is more interested in fame and wealth than saving Ukrainian lives.
Right… remind me who started this “3 day special military operation”? It was Zelenskyy right? Oh wait no it wasn’t. They only other solution was let russia take over all of Ukraine. Why are you defending putin? All those dead Ukrainians are his fault.
No, he’s not. He’s an actor playing a role so he can continue to grow his net worth by the millions.
your whole account is taking L’s. Go back to reddit!
Is it? I don’t see
I know, that’s the unfortunate part.
America is living in a disinformation space. There is a reason Musk bought Twitter, and it’s not because he thought he could make it better for users.
See also: hyperreality
Also the reason why Saudis funded it. They want a piece of the post truth pie. But why did Elon even bother with the Saudi money? Is it as simple as wanting to keep the high score?
He paid $44 billion for twitter (of his and others’ money) but the presidency of the richest country on earth only cost $250 million? It doesn’t add up at all.
Who really thinks America lives in Twitter?!? At best, 1 in 4 Americans are on Twitter. America invented the VPN. We have been circumventing disinformation for longer than any country. Could it be that ppl from less high tech countries (like France) who have less digital access are more likely to be misinformed?
Trump and Musk literally got regular phone mentoring on how to do what they’re doing (shape and install an official Oligarchy). You don’t need to create an information space when the participants are willingly taking direct lessons and coaching from Putin.
The republican traitor filth must be held to account.
Grow up. It’s not red vs blue. It’s billionaires vs peasants.
The irony of this comment.
What is the irony?
He urged Trump’s team to be “more truthful”
Trump responded by calling Zelensky a “dictator without elections”, and suggested his ratings were low.
(for those curious: the Ukrainian constitution prohibits electing a president during war, it’s especially hard with 20% of the country under hostile control; and regarding Zelensky’s rating, it’s about 70% currently)
After that, some Republicans with a spine (Mike Pence, Don Bacon, Thom Tillis, Mike Rounds, John Kennedy, et al) also called out Trump to be more truthful.
If Elon is true to his word, he now has to give 100 M to politicians who oppose those Republicans in primaries. Because he threatened to beat anyone who badmouths his boss with his wallet.
John Kennedy
i’ll always know him as the “i can’t wait to have your cock in my mouth” guy
Trump is a russian marionette
Theres even people here on lemmy living in that space
I don’t get it. How will they sell to the people this total capitulation? I’m not American. As far as I’m informed people there don’t like and don’t trust Russia and Putin. Won’t they see this deal and be like wtf?
There are people here who will tell you that they would trust the Russian government more than their neighbor, if their neighbor ever suggested that industry should be regulated.
I stopped being nice to those neighbors. Feed your own cats. No I’m not turning the music down. Get fucked traitors.
That conjured a great mental image for me of old man Putin setting out little bowls for neighborhood cats with the faces of Elon and Trump.
I’ve heard it said that Putin is actually the world’s richest man, worth over $1 trillion. I could believe it.
The most telling statistic about Russia’s trustworthiness is that every single independent country that shares a border with Russia on the West has mandatory military service and those in the same region without a shared border with Russia don’t.
They don’t have their own thoughts anymore; they love trump so much, they’re just going along with whatever he says and he says he likes Russia, so they’ve done a complete about-face on the subject.
It was never really about Russia or Putin, but the ideological divide between capitalism and socialism. And authoritarianism and democracy.
Now, we have an authoritarian president. And apparently a third of the country voted for that so. Yeah that’s where Americans are at sadly.
The word President implies authority. No, Trump is not an authoritarian. Yes, he has displayed authoritarian tendencies. Trump is not Hitler. Take a second to google ‘worlds best leaders’ and you see a lots of people who were never leading entire countries but just led culture, like Ghandi. It’s reasonable to conclude that most humans do not view any political leader as best or the greatest when they hold authority over other people. A leader is only considered good when they don’t have power over the population.
No, Trump is not an authoritarian.
That’s clearly false. He is actively attempting to expand presidential authority at the cost of the Congress, courts and federal agencies. He’s also replacing staff very agressively, installing loyalists whom he expects to do what he says. He has already gradually purged internal opposition within the Republican party, and continues work towards that end.
The essence of authoritarianism is grabbing more power (accompanied by claims of needing it for legitimate purposes) - with dictatorship at the far end.
Just ask ChatGPT, look up the definition of the word, use google AI … put in any effort to verify your assumptions or false information is true. And type behavior like Nixon, yes. He does not fit the definition of an authoritarian.
Don’t like? Disagree. There are Russian people all over America. Don’t trust? Yes, America doesn’t trust Russia and the average American would be slightly nervous in Russia. The rest of the world needs to learn that since America is the most racially diverse country on earth, America as a whole is unable to hate entire ethnic group.
I often wonder how it goes behind closed doors. Is Zelenskyy all polite or is he more like you’re full of shit and you fucking know it?
Zelensky is a media and communication master.
Give them a few European nucleair warheads to use if they feel threatened enough. We went from helmets to F16s already. Let’s play fuck around and find out.
The EU just announced $730 billion in war materiel for Ukraine. This is double what the US contributed over three years.
As far as I can tell, Trump has only been right about a single thing, that Europe needs to spend more money on military.
Looks like it’s blowing up in his face and it’s going to fuck him out of selling Ukraine to Russia.
The Art of the Deal
As someone working for the DOE in the nuclear space, it would be helpful for you to update yourself on the state of nuclear weapons globally. Europes nukes are old, averaging 38.2 years each, because Europe has depended on American military power for too long. They still use tanks and don’t have enough jets. Russia has the most active nukes with the average nuke age of 10 years old. America, with an average nuke age of 40, is rushing to catch up as most of our nukes are from WW2. Uranium loses its strength over time. America has been concerned about Russia’s nuclear power for so long that we are already a decade into an initiative of updating America’s nuclear stock pile. Germany was a big impact on nuclear research but due to the politics, Germany has phased out a lot of the nuclear industry. America has not. America has been ‘deploying’ American nukes in Europe since 1969 but America has been keeping its nuclear weapon advancements to themselves.
Are you saying you work for the DOE in the nuclear space, or op?
Wait, are you trying to refute my claim? I don’t get why I’m being down voted for educating people on pumping nuclear information. It’s a lot more dynamic than ‘I have nukes.’
I don’t know OP so I would never make that claim.
Yep and no one near him is going to correct him which is the perfect recipe for terrible atrocities and catastrophes
Russia got Ukraine’s territories, USA wants to obtain something from Ukraine resources too to protect them. UE should ask for something too from Ukraine to protect them from both USA and Russia. Or at least pretend to do it so that the two bad guys think we’re bad guys too.
