Even inside the Harris campaign, there was dissent about whether she needed to take a more aggressive stance for Gaza.

A Harris organizer who worked on youth turnout said that senior campaign officials gave them an order: When they sent out mass volunteer or fundraising emails and people replied by asking about Gaza, they were told to mark it as “no response.” The result? They seldom ended up engaging with voters on that issue.

“We also didn’t create a new category for Gaza responses out of fear that category would be leaked. Instead we were told to mark them as ‘no response,’” the organizer said, faulting top Harris campaign leaders for failing to address the issue. “The only ‘clowns’ out there are those who were in senior leadership and decided to abdicate on this issue, who silenced a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, and who told us to ignore it every time a voter asked us about Gaza.”

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    Yeah, great, both the undecided people are idiots with a idiot plan and the Harris campaign were idiots with an idiot plan.

    By your stupidity combined we get president neo-Nazi.

    Great job guys. Hit the showers and stubbornly not learn a good damn thing.

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      The “undecided” people were always decided. Decided against genocide, always were, always will be. You want them to learn … learn what, exactly?

      We all told Harris how to win and she refused to take our advice. Even now she can’t admit that she screwed up… Or maybe she actually believed her pro-genocide stance was a good one, and if so, good riddance.

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        Really, decided against genocide so they campaigned to let a neo Nazi win. That’s some solid reasoning there, maybe learn to not cut off your nose to spite your face.

        As for Harris, yeah, her and the Democrats should learn to listen to the people but if you seriously think she was pro-genocide, well there’s no point in even taking at that juncture.

        Either way, y’all made your choices, you cast your vote, you didn’t have to deal with Harris any more, good luck dealing with Trump and how receptive he and his administration will be.

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          As for Harris, yeah, her and the Democrats should learn to listen to the people but if you seriously think she was pro-genocide, well there’s no point in even taking at that juncture.

          If she wasn’t pro genocide, then it should’ve been easy for her to speak out against genocide, right?

          Either way, y’all made your choices, you cast your vote, you didn’t have to deal with Harris any more, good luck dealing with Trump and how receptive he and his administration will be.

          Again, how receptive was Harris? Clearly there was no choice when it came to genocide. If something as horrific as genocide is non-negotiable, what makes you think either political party cares to work for the people on any other heavily lobbied issue?

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    The corporate media is trying to divide the left. Don’t let them. Fuck this relitigation of the election. There’s blame on both sides, but it’s water under the bridge at this point. Fuck fascists and their tactics of division.

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        “we” did not fail. We did everything right, but the result was bad.

        And the corporate funders of the DNC didn’t fail; they’re richer now than they were before. They got exactly what they wanted.

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          Then why does it matter if the left is divided? Not like the milquetoast liberals are going to be any help against fascists. They’ll start goosestepping with the rest of them once the writing’s on the wall.

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        The party is also controlled by corporate interests because money is the most important thing in politics now. To change the party you will need many, many millions of dollars. Don’t have that? Gee sucks to not be a billionaire. 🤷

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      I don’t think it’s been corporate media posting a bunch of stupid and antagonizing bullshit to c/politicalmemes

      Also, the last three elections in a row at least have all had moderate Dems who refuse to listen to their voters and do whatever their donors want and then go on to lose or barely win against this fascist prick, and I really really really don’t want to go through another one of those elections. We need to have a thorough examination of how the Democratic party has been fucking us here and concrete verifiable steps they will take to stop this, otherwise the left is going to remain divided whether or not corporate media is reporting on it.

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      Liberals are not the left. Either the Democrats get their stuff together and listen to the demands of the left, or they will lose once again in 2028.

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        I think that’s a weak point in terminology.

        If you want to say left = liberal = Democrat, then you’re intentionally overlooking the vast differences between the three groups. And even within the Democrats, there is a lot of variation.

        Most Washington Democrats hold center-right views on many major topics. For example, war, immigration, corporate welfare. Well, all of this depends on definitions, and people intentionally use conflicting terminology. But anyway, of course different political groups hold different political views. That’s normal.

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    Harris left a vacuum by not visiting Michigan families impacted by US-supplied bombs to help create a permission structure for their trust while Trump visited Dearborn and filled a community in despair with lies

    “One of these things is not like the other.”

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    Uncommitted leaders wanted the United States to be destroyed. They don’t care at all about Gaza and never have. If you were dumb enough to fall for their shit, you deserve what happens to you.

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      Well that certainly is a take. Not a good one that’s backed up by anything bit certainly a take.

      I do agree that their strategy was dumb but they now have to live with the reality that is trump now.

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        I think the DNC is out of touch with their voters.

        Given your username and instance, I’ll assume you were dumb enough to not vote, which double fucked everyone—including the Palestinians!! But hey, you’re tearing down the United States and that’s the most important thing. Just don’t be surprised if that orange fool pulls the rest of the world down with him.

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          Given your username and instance, I’ll assume you were dumb enough to not vote

          Given his username, instance and post history, he probably doesn’t have the right to vote in American elections.

          He’s like [email protected] who claims to be American while being very clearly and obviously Russian

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            I don’t see any other country in the world doing anything to stop Israel. What are campaign workers really supposed to say? Ignoring and misleading was clearly a poor response. But, so was voting for Trump via not voting at all.

            But hey, speeding up the decline is the whole point, right? Who cares how many people die! 🤡

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              I don’t see any other country in the world doing anything to stop Israel.

              We didn’t need to continue selling them weapons.

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                Agreed. But the US isn’t the only country selling them weapons. Israel has been doing this shit for decades, and no one seemed to care until an election year. Where are the “genocide Trump” comments? Nowhere to be found.

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                  But the US isn’t the only country selling them weapons.

                  That doesn’t make it conscionable.

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      Every rational person wants the USA destroyed. It’s a garbage genocidal empire that’s literally destroying the planet.

      If you’re dumb enough to believe the nationalist BS, then you’re probably posting ignorant comments on lemmy.

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        Every rational person should want all authoritarian governments destroyed without destroying the people within the country they control. Thinking otherwise just means you’re willing to sacrifice lives on a bet that worse means better eventually—which has never been the case.