this is what walmart pulled, my state required them to raise the minimum wage to 13$ about 2 years prior to them doing it across the board, they applied the raise and then used the raise which they were forced to do, as the next 2 years worth of excuses for the lack of cost of living increase.
If you’re not going to take the counter offer, why even bring it up? I suppose it would be a message to your old boss that they ought to offer more when seeking your replacement, but they won’t. Maybe you could share the information with the person most likely to be forced into doing all your work under their old title and at their old wage.
Yeah, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask the new company to beat it by a bit. Tell them you’ll verbally accept if they meet, say, 5-10% above the counter offer or even a one-time sign-on bonus because you’d like a change of pace anyway but want some compensation for taking the risk of making the jump.
Here’s an alternative perspective: if they counter offer, you’re probably still underpaid, so you may want to accept and keep looking for the next few months using the new salary as your new base expectation. But absolutely make sure you’re never going to come back to that org if you leave within a year of accepting the counter offer.
In my experience being both and employee and employer it’s not usually the best move to stay. You were leaving for a reason. If the reason was not money, then all it’s done is convince you to put up with it for longer. If it was money, it’s just a matter of time till someone offers more, and the company knows that. They will build redundancy and remove you so you don’t disrupt business by surprising them with an exit.
If you’re not making enough there it’s because the company doesn’t want to pay you more or can’t. If a company is paying you more than they would like, they’re not just going to accept that, action will be taken to fill that spot at the desired price point.
Is all this right and moral, of course not. But capitalism never is, especially these days.
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“You’re asking for another raise? We gave you that huge one two years ago”
That huge raise: 1.5%
That
huge raisecost of living adjustment (that doesn’t even make up for wage lost through inflation.)as the CEO gives themself a 10% raise every quarter, along with bonuses larger than your monthly pay
this is what walmart pulled, my state required them to raise the minimum wage to 13$ about 2 years prior to them doing it across the board, they applied the raise and then used the raise which they were forced to do, as the next 2 years worth of excuses for the lack of cost of living increase.
If you’re not going to take the counter offer, why even bring it up? I suppose it would be a message to your old boss that they ought to offer more when seeking your replacement, but they won’t. Maybe you could share the information with the person most likely to be forced into doing all your work under their old title and at their old wage.
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Yeah, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask the new company to beat it by a bit. Tell them you’ll verbally accept if they meet, say, 5-10% above the counter offer or even a one-time sign-on bonus because you’d like a change of pace anyway but want some compensation for taking the risk of making the jump.
Here’s an alternative perspective: if they counter offer, you’re probably still underpaid, so you may want to accept and keep looking for the next few months using the new salary as your new base expectation. But absolutely make sure you’re never going to come back to that org if you leave within a year of accepting the counter offer.
They say this but it’s not my experience. Really depends on the company and opportunities.
In my experience being both and employee and employer it’s not usually the best move to stay. You were leaving for a reason. If the reason was not money, then all it’s done is convince you to put up with it for longer. If it was money, it’s just a matter of time till someone offers more, and the company knows that. They will build redundancy and remove you so you don’t disrupt business by surprising them with an exit.
If you’re not making enough there it’s because the company doesn’t want to pay you more or can’t. If a company is paying you more than they would like, they’re not just going to accept that, action will be taken to fill that spot at the desired price point.
Is all this right and moral, of course not. But capitalism never is, especially these days.