Office space meme:

“If y’all could stop calling an LLM “open source” just because they published the weights… that would be great.”

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    1 day ago

    I mean that’s all a model is so… Once again someone who doesn’t understand anything about training or models is posting borderline misinformation about ai.

    Shocker

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      A model is an artifact, not the source. We also don’t call binaries “open-source”, even though they are literally the code that’s executed. Why should these phrases suddenly get turned upside down for AI models?

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      A model can be represented only by its weights in the same way that a codebase can be represented only by its binary.

      Training data is a closer analogue of source code than weights.

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      Yet another so-called AI evangelist accusing others of not understanding computer science if they don’t want to worship their machine god.

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          It’s not like you need specific knowledge of Transformer models and whatnot to counterargue LLM bandwagon simps. A basic knowledge of Machine Learning is fine.

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                I mean if you both think this is overhyped nonsense, then by all means buy some Nvidia stock. If you know something the hedge fund teams don’t, why not sell your insider knowledge and become rich?

                Or maybe you guys don’t understand it as well as you think. Could be either, I guess.

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                  23 hours ago

                  Because over-hyped nonsense is what the stock market craves… That’s how this works. That’s how all of this works.

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                    23 hours ago

                    Ok. How does that apply to DeepSeek?

                    Your anti-AI talking points are so embedded with anti-Big Tech arguments, that now you can’t pivot when it’s a publicly available, communist developed, energy efficient AI.

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                  24 hours ago

                  I didn’t say it is all overhyped nonsense, my only point is that I agree with the opinion stated in the meme, and I don’t think people who disagree really understand AI models or what “open source” means.

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                    23 hours ago

                    My career is AI. It is over hyped and what the tech bros say is nonsense. AI models are not source, they are artifacts, which can be used by other source to run inference, but they themselves are not source, and anyone who says they are don’t know what code is.

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                  22 hours ago

                  Yeah, let’s all base our decisions and definitions on what the stock market dictates. What could possibly go wrong?

                  /s 🙄

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                    21 hours ago

                    When your narcissism has reached the point of, ‘I know better than every hedge fund manager and technical expert on the subject’, it’s time to get an evaluated for a personality disorder.

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                  24 hours ago

                  I have spent a very considerable amount of time tinkering with using ai models of all sorts.

                  Personally, I don’t know shit. I learned about… Zero entropy loss functions (?) The other day. That was interesting. I don’t know a lick of calculus and was able to grok what was going on thanks to a very excellent YouTube video. Anyway, I guess my point is that suddenly everyone is an expert.

                  I’m not. But I think it’ neat.

                  Like. I’ve spent hundreds or possibly thousands of hours learning as much as I can about AI of all sorts (as a hobby) and I still don’t know shit. I trained a gan once. On reddit porn. Terrible results. Great learning.

                  Its a cool state to be in cuz there’s so much out there to learn about.

                  I’m not entirely sure what my point is here beyond the fact that most people I’ve seen grandstanding about this stuff online tend to get schooled by an actual expert.

                  I love it when that happens.