• Omgboom@lemmy.zip
    4·
    2 months ago

    The media is trying to paint a picture of him as a right winger so they can better control the narrative. Read his actual social media posts and you can see that it’s much more nuanced than that.

    • glimse@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 months ago

      The media is also trying to paint a picture of him as a left winger. But his overall “wing” does not matter when we support him for his message

      He didn’t kill the CEO of Planned Parenthood or the dean of a liberal college. He killed the CEO of one of the most evil companies in an evil industry - something we can all get behind

      • MrVilliam@lemm.eeEnglish
        11·
        2 months ago

        Right. It’s just yet another example of progressive ideas being popular with everybody, so long as it’s pitched in a vacuum without any labels attached. Everybody wants better healthcare. Everybody wants cheaper groceries. Everybody wants privacy in their bedrooms. Everybody wants money out of politics. But most people aren’t paying enough attention to realize that they’re actually voting against these things when they vote for conservatives, no matter what those conservatives pretend to stand for.

        • MataVatnik@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 months ago

          Eh, same thing with the democratic party, they at least drop some crumbs but at the end of the day they still answer to the oligarchs

      • UsernameHere@lemmy.world
        0·
        2 months ago

        I agree, but so many leftists on lemmy have told me they don’t want democrats working with Liz Cheney regardless of her message that we must stop Trump from getting re-elected.

        I wish people would focus less on ideologies and more on solidarity for a cause.

        • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          2 months ago

          That’s COMPLETELY different.

          It’s easy to point out the obvious fact that Trump is a fascist who should never have been trusted to run the family real estate company, much less the government of the richest and most powerful country in the history of humanity.

          It’s especially easy when you’ve already been kicked out of the fascist party for insufficient but not nonexistent loyalty to Dear Leader.

          When there’s political relevance and profits in pointing out the obvious, Liz is there in a flash.

          When it comes down to meaningful action, though, Luigi killed the killer and Liz voted exactly like her dad would have, which is “whatever whomever’s in charge of the GOP wants” 95%+ of the time.

          Tl;Dr: Liz Cheney never did anything for the working class and the only time she pretended to, it only served to illustrate how out of touch with the reality of regular people the Lesser Evil Party is.

            • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              1·
              2 months ago

              That’s what I’m trying to explain to you: to the DNC leadership and the Cheneys, there is no cause. Only a competition and a paycheck.

              Do you seriously believe that Liz Cheney, Joe Manchin, and Nancy Pelosi care any more about the working poor than the likes of Mitch McConnell, Chuck Grassley, and John Roberts?

              Because if so, I have oceanfront property in Nebraska to sell you…

                • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  2·
                  2 months ago

                  If it was, they would have listened to the people they had to represent to win rather than the rich ones they represent to get paid.

                  Biden said it himself: as long as he gave it a good shot, he wouldn’t feel bad about losing to Trump.

                  The minute they didn’t have any money and power to gain, THIS was how much disdain the Bidens had for the fascist dictator–elect:

    • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      1·
      2 months ago

      They interviewed one of his friends from college who said that “Luigi tends to be on the left economically but not agree with the leftist identity politics”

  • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
    3·
    2 months ago

    We talk a lot about left and right wing and what it means here. If you’re destroying elite power structures you are to the left of the king. There is zero ambiguity there.

      • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
        01·
        2 months ago

        That’s pretty simplistic and puts the cart before the horse. Political coalitions are not a new phenomenon, nor are picking up your politics from your social connections. That was exactly how politics worked in Rome. Hell in Constantinople their coalitions straight up sponsored chariot racing teams and ended up burning the city down https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots . Your membership in a coalition was dependent on who you received patronage from.

        My point is, from the essence, from it’s meaning to the days of the third estate, breaking down power structures is left wing.

      • SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works
        01·
        2 months ago

        I saw that video the other day. While I think that it’s true that there are social reasons why people adopt their politics. You’re extending that fact a bit far to say that fact nullifies left/right understandings of politics.

        That isn’t to say you shouldn’t have class solidarity with right-wingers. But it is a delicate situation because you also must maintain class solidarity with the groups right-wingers have been taught to hate.

  • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
    2·
    2 months ago

    yup. im as left as anyone but you know if a right wing neighbor is picking up garbage strewn around the local park. im not against it.

    • frezik@midwest.social
      1·
      2 months ago

      Are you comparing a healthcare CEO to garbage in the park?

      If so, I’m completely OK with that.

  • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    1·
    2 months ago

    Seriously, though. I mean, if you see someone helping an elderly person cross the street, do you go up and ask them what their political alignments are before you decide it was a good deed?

    • gibmiser@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 months ago

      Lol at the comparison. Our boy Luigi out there shooting CEOs and walking grandma’s across the streets

      • Wrufieotnak@feddit.org
        1·
        2 months ago

        I mean … in a way he helped grandmas cross streets. After they now finally got that hip replacement or the walking aid or the physiotherapy or…

          • Wrufieotnak@feddit.org
            1·
            2 months ago

            I’m with you what the tree needs more watering. But let’s not act if it didn’t have an immediate effect. They took back the “no more anaesthesia” for example. Yes they will try again, if the pressure isn’t kept on them.

          • wolfshadowheart@leminal.space
            1·
            2 months ago

            Except it did result in immediate change? Cou,d they reverse it down the line? Sure. But they backed off from it now because of this.

  • zeroday@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    1·
    2 months ago

    I don’t have to agree with right wingers on everything in order to agree that these rich parasites need to go.

  • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
    1·
    2 months ago

    He’s also 26, and was raised in the bubble of wealth and opportunity. For him to even have half of the radical ideas or to have read the Unabomber’s book is growth in of itself.

    “What radicalized you?” dear reader, and more pertinently, at what age? Let’s not pretend we all were born as fully actualized and capable philosophical beings that were always right and never had to develop and grow.

  • dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
    1·
    2 months ago

    What is better: to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?

    ~ Paarthurnax

  • Sundial@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Left leaning people do too good a job of shooting ourselves in the foot by alienating people who don’t 100% prescribe to the same beliefs we have. The reality is people are all over the political spectrum and that’s not always a bad thing. Finding common ground and working together is what governance is all about.