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Except the popular vote is also for trump, Sooo i don’t know, what the fuck ever
The popular vote is for nobody if you count the people who didn’t vote.
Not voting is the decision that you are fine with tyranny, bigotry, or what ever. So the non voter May as well believe in what ever the winner believes and be treated as such.
There’s different reasons to not vote.
Some are disengaged. They don’t watch or read news, they often don’t even know what’s going on in the world around them.
Some are disenfranchised. There are obstacles that make voting difficult and confusing, and sometimes even impossible.
Some are dejected. After every election the Democrats mostly fail to help the people they promise to help during the elections.
Turnout is way down. We have to analyze why, not just lump them in with MAGA.
A vote not cast mathematically is equivalent to vote to the winner. There are tons of reasons one might have to abstain, but it’s their responsibility to acknowledge that them not voting against the winner helped the winner win. Now, if they don’t care that’s another matter, but that they facilitated the winner to win is true.
By this sort of logic, if people who don’t vote are responsible for whatever the winner does, then more so for those that voted. Which would mean anyone who voted for Biden last election are complicit in the Palestinian genocide, the failure of Biden to protect women’s and trans rights in red states, etc. This blame game is stupid and accomplishes nothing. You think crying and blaming the people who didn’t vote is gonna make them want to vote next election (if we even get one)?
A 20 days old account named comrade commenting on a 11 days comment, cool.
Which would mean anyone who voted for Biden last election are complicit in the Palestinian genocide, the failure of Biden to protect women’s and trans rights in red states, etc.
Well, blaming citizens for actions that both parties would do is kinda pointless, yeah. This same logic can’t be applied for policies exclusive to the red party, explicitly stated in the project 2025, can it?
You think crying and blaming the people who didn’t vote is gonna make them want to vote next election (if we even get one)?
Oh, so you do acknowledge that this election was on a level that endangered democracy for the US, given that you suggest that there might not be a next election. Well, yeah I’m pissed that the US citizens overall made their utmost effort to elect a tyrant soon to be dictator. I’m not even in the same continent and I’m scared of the implications of having such a leader in the global war machine.
As an addendum, I did not cry and blame no one, my comment was to show that actions have consequences and that the ones that abstain should also be held accountable for the results. Not voting sends the message that you don’t care, so you better not care when things worsen.
One. I have a new account because my old account was on Lemmy Unchained which seems to not exist anymore. Secondly I am an anarchist, so don’t insinuate that I am a Russian bot.
Two. America is on the track to fascism, voting Kamala wouldn’t have stopped it, merely slowed it. Not even stall it for an election cycle, cause states have been moving towards fascism independent of the president.
Three. There are plenty of reasons why people would either abstain or vote third party. Boycotting the system, refusing to be complicit in genocide, losing faith in the system, not feeling safe to, etc. None of these are the voters fault. Nearly all are the DNC’s fault for continuing their strategy of appealing to the right.
Killing someone out of negligence is still killing and still a crime.
I don’t see why the decision to not vote wouldn’t still be a decision for whatever the outcome of not voting is.
Twist: the poster above me wanted you to vote for someone actively committing genocide
Felt like context needed to be added because your rhetoric is completely disconnected from reality
And it’s disgusting
Oh wow you’re so smart, I’m sure trump won’t do worse!
Fuck, I was hoping we were done with you people after you got what you wanted and trump won.
oooo smarm smarm
smuggy smarm smarm… lol smarm smug
That’s you. That’s what you look like.
Any analysis that gives agency to individual voters and not the campaign is blockheaded
The people who didn’t vote for Blue Hitler aren’t the ones who forced Blue Hitler on the ballot.
Probably too soon, but I’ll give it an upvote anyway.
The Democrats failed by trying to find common ground with the GOP - the electorate is more divided than ever, and if they want Trump, they’re not going to vote for Trump-lite - they’ll vote for Dorito Mussolini himself… and here we are.
Too soon was yesterday and earlier. The race is over - it’s time to rub our own representatives noses in their bullshit and hope our country limps along well enough to give them a chance to apply the lesson. …I’m not confident that opportunity will be on the table going forward.
If you’re still putting your trust and faith in anyone to represent you and your interests within this system, you might have some lessons to learn yourself…
You can’t keep playing their game over and over expecting a different result.
Direct action, mutual aid, dual power, horizontal governing. Those are the ways forward, not yet another cycle of electoral theatre.
I voted for the frying pan in hopes of avoiding the fire. I don’t have faith in any of them, but there’s a spectrum of awful they all fall on and I’d prefer to at least hang out on the less severe end of it.
But you’re right, we absolutely cannot rely on this shit.
I’d prefer to at least hang out on the less severe end of it.
That end is an illusion, the “lesser evil” is there to manufacture consent for evil in general, and to help shift the Overton window to the right.
I’m not trying to have a go at you, I’m just frustrated and think people seriously need to be shaken out of this collective obedience to the rules of our oppressors. The existing system will never serve us, it is designed to do the opposite. If herr cheeto getting elected for a second term doesn’t do it, what the fuck will?
One of my friends probably just killed themselves.
Fuck you. You are part of the reason she’s dead.
I think you need to deal with your grief offline, mate.
