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gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@lemmy.worldEnglish ·
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Considering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from now

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Considering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from now

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    If Europe gets into a war of course the US will help. But the same can’t really be said if the US gets into a war. The rest of NATO needs to be able to hold the fort if the US were to get suddenly …distracted in the Pacific

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      If Europe gets into a war of course the US will help.

      How sure are you of that? Sure, if Russia marches towards the Atlantic Ocean, but if Russia decides to create a security buffer zone in Finland? Or the Baltic countries?

      NATO has only survived for as long because of the commitment of the US. Come January NATO is dead as well as a sovereign Ukraine.

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      If Europe gets into a war, the US will side with Russia. Trump has been a Russian asset since the 80s, and it’s clear that he gave Putin classified documents relating to American spies and informants during his last presidency when they suddenly started dying a few days after he met with Putin. And even more classified documents relating to American espionage against Russia than the ones he requested before that meeting were found in Mar a la Go.

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        can you cite a source on the spies dying a few days after he met Putin? Not saying it’s not true, just curious.

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          I wrote that incorrectly, it wasn’t a few days after he met Putin, but a marked spike over the months after. He requested classified documents related to CIA operations like 3 days before the meeting with Putin. It’s also a series of events over a couple of years because it wasn’t until at least a year later that the FBI raided Mar a Lago and found more classified documents related to intelligence operations. There’s no real way to know for sure unless Trump or Putin admit it, but the correlation was and is suspect by even the intelligence operations of the government and is partially why the inquiry into Trump was called for in the first place.

          https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/

          https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-fbi-raid-could-some-connection-murdered-cia-assets-msnbcs-joy-reid-speculates

          https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/us/politics/trump-affidavit-intelligence-spies.html

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        Hahahahahahahaha

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      Are you fucking stupid? Which is the only country to ever invoke article 5? How many other countries listened to the call for this injust war?

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        Are you fucking stupid?

        yes.

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