Was tempted to call this “Debate 2: Electric Boogaloo” but a) A lot of Lemmy won’t get the OG reference. and 2) “Boogaloo” has been co-opted and carries an unfortunate connotation these days.
Also, while it’s Trump’s 2nd debate of the season, it’s Harris’s first…
It’s being run by ABC News at 9 PM Eastern time, 6 PM Pacific, I see MSNBC starts their coverage TWO HOURS EARLY. That’s a lot of air time to fill, guys. Good luck!
Live updates, how and when to watch, debate rules, etc. here:
Link to the first debate thread here:
https://lemmy.world/post/16973660
That’t it! Thanks for hanging with it everbody!
What the fuck is he talking about Russia when taking about Israel-hamas?
Because nobody actually cares about Palestine.
Whereas the argument of republicans and tankies is that Ukraine is America’s fault for not helping putin take it or whatever.
Trump’s getting the pants beat off him. Based on what happened in the most recent debate, I think his next move is to drop out and let Vance run instead.
Couches across the country living in fear right now.
And some reclining in anticipation.
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So here are my thoughts:
- First, the obvious: Harris won handily. She was in her element, and just thoroughly excoriated Trump at every turn, while maintaining an optimistic tone.
- But at the same time, Trump is probably not losing any of his base over his abysmal performance. Most of them probably didn’t watch, and the few that did probably tuned out in favor of reading conservative bloggers’ desperate spinning about halfway through.
- The real question is how off-putting he’s been for undecideds. He was pretty bad, but I’m aware enough of my own biases to wonder exactly how bad his behavior looks to undecideds.
- On the issues, Harris didn’t really have a stumble. I was pleasantly surprised by how well she handled the issue of Israel/Palestine, for example.
- The moderators get a B for following up questions, a C- for mic handling, and an A- for calling it out when Trump’s bizarre, rambling bullshit failed to even vaguely resemble an answer.
All in all, I didn’t hate this (other than the sound of Trump’s face hole).
I don’t understand how people think any of their bases will ever change. It’s always about the undecided. I am not mocking you. But it’s an obvious thing to me.
It’s not about the undecided. You’d have to have brain worms to be undecided when Trump is an option. Undecided right now is like choosing between a stale pile of dog shit and fast food and justifying it by saying “well fast food is pretty shitty”.
It’s about getting people to VOTE. People who don’t usually vote need to get out and vote. That’s it. That’s what’s going to make the difference. Kamala has to mobilise reluctant voters.
Did you read what I wrote? It is always about the undecideds. Bases hardly ever sway. I did a paper about it in college. I even received a high mark. Maybe you are responding to the wrong thread?
It’s not about the people who are undecided between Kamala and Trump. It’s about the people who are undecided between Kamala and not voting at all.
Is that the first time a us president has talked about a two state solution in … like decades?
Trump looks like complete shit.
Yeah that panning shot before the commercials he legit looks like he is going to collapse and die
