• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Boomers: have more kids! we need the workforce

    Boomers: all those taxes that made our families possible - nah fuck that. Keep the minimum wage locked for 15 years.

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      You used to be able to buy an entire house, pay the mortgage, support a small family, and still have minimal left over. One salary. Companies used to reward loyalty more than they do so you didn’t need to job hop to get anywhere. Universities were affordable, like you could work any job and pay for the semester from that.

      Someone more familiar with the economic conditions correct me if I am wrong. Boomers could afford to live because venture capitalists weren’t extracting all the value from the economy to buy yachts.

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    Many people my age have terrible boomer parents who just had kids because “that’s just what you do”. They didn’t even consider you could just not make babies.

    Maybe we just think more for ourselves than the older generation.

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      Right??? My siblings have an 18 year span, I’ll be 38 when the youngest graduates highschool. I feel like I already have kids, I’m doing so much emotional and financial support for these ones

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    When we grew up wondering how we would address overpopulation, impoverishment wasn’t something we had in mind.

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      If it gets bad enough, birth rates will go up. Developed countries typically have lower birth rates than undeveloped countries.

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        Developed countries typically have lower birth rates than undeveloped countries.

        That is more to do with education and women’s liberation (including contraception), than finances. Which I suspect is still the predominant reason that birth rates are dropping, with finances just a secondary reason.

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        Seems like a side effect of unchecked greed instead. If it were properly designed people would be able to afford enough bread and circuses to stay complacent

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    We won’t have kids because, despite doing everything right, despite working hard, we’re struggling with finances. Kids wouldn’t be affordable without an extra job, and most of work two already!

  • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.org
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    Not having kids is one of the biggest middle fingers to the capitalist machine. Take away their wage slaves and lets see how much good their money will do the rich.

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      All these conspiracy theories about how the elites want to reduce the world population have always been nonsense. If you look, all the most vocal ones have been promoting population growth and when you look at history, downward population trends have only increased the common person’s rights. They want a surplus of people so we fight amongst ourselves.

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    This is concerning. Especially people telling poor people to not have kids. Are we just gonna take it and accept that the joy of being a parent and having children should only be a right bestowed on the wealthy? Poor people are stuck in a financial fuck loop that they will never escape, having children is the only joy some people will experience in this fucked up system

    Edit: it’s crazy how many people have been brainwashed into accepting this roundabout eugenics and telling poor people they aren’t entitled to children

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      I’m going to counter with 2 distilled, oversimplified thoughts:

      Happiness is a choice; most people can find a way to be happy in their lives with what they have.

      People shouldn’t have children mainly to experience joy, be complete, or just because. That’s fucked up. I know people will fluff out a number of reasons if challenged, but I think you nailed it, and I think more than a few people have kids just to have kids.

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    Also, *gestures wildly around themself* look at the state the world is in. Which sane person would want to bring a child into this fucked up world?

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      Well, you and similar people know the world is fucked up, but there’s a lot more people out there swimming in the ignorance of simply believing everything is fine or that the people raising problems are catastrophising and that everything will somehow work out.

      Those people will keep having kids even if basically every sign pointed to the certainty of that kid’s life ending early during some kind of traumatic existential struggle.

      There’s just a percentage of society who simply don’t put in much thought beyond their immediate existence and future. That’s almost definitely bad in the grand scheme of things, but I guess on the flip side, they potentially live happier lives in ignorance before getting blipped out of existence.

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        I mean, 50% of humanity doesn’t have an inner monologue- they’re essentially just moving from one impulse to another.

        Half of everyone. There’s no chance for this species without radical change.

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          xkcd - Idiocracy

          For god’s sake – people who don’t hear their own voice in their own head are “just moving from one impulse to another”? People require an inner monologue, as opposed to seeing things in their imagination or what have you, in order to be capable of conscious thought? Are we seriously at the point where we’re saying “anyone who doesn’t experience the world the same way I do is no better than an animal”?