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    Yes, but corporations pay into the system in other ways. Take for example the time Duke Energy had a big coal ash spill into a river. They took the income resources they had and not only paid a fair fine price, cleaned up the…

    Wait. No they didn’t. They passed on all the costs to their customers. Fortunately those customers were able to use the free market and choose another provider…

    Wait. No, they can’t. Huh. That IS a freeloader.

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    Its funny how much owning a successful business sound exactly like being a lazy, work-shy layabout who does nothing while living off of other people’s hard work.

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    I’d actually be willing to bet that we (the US taxpayer) paid those corporations for the privilege of their continued existence

  • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
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    Racism is either a symptom or a tool:

    Those who cant make sense of their situation being unsatisfactory may fall prey to it to soothe themselves.

    Those who hoard all of the worlds wealth use it to distract from that fact.

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      Worth noting that a lot of the people raging about immigrants don’t see themselves as racist.

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        Or themselves as immigrants, for that matter.

        A German settler calling a Hispanic migrant “illegal” really says something about the legal and social zeitgeist.

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        If you apply liberal’s superficial understanding of what white supremacism actually is hard enough it’s very easy to end up in a situation where nobody could possibly be a white supremacist.

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    Stupid question: If undocumented, how are they verifiably paying anything close to this figure in taxes? Pls respond

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      They can request and may be assigned an individual tax ID number (ITIN). Having an ITIN may allow them to open a bank account. It also makes it so they pay taxes which a surprising number want to do. Since they want to stay in the country, having a long history of paying taxes is a way to show you don’t want to cause trouble and you just want to work. Hell, a lot of them probably know they got Al Capone on tax evasion and don’t want to end up like him. Here’s a report I just Googled, and possibly the source of the number which is an estimate.

      On the other side is how much tax funding is used on them. Here’s a report from the House of Representatives which states they use more in services (Medicare, WIC, sending kids to school, etc) than they pay. I can’t speak to how accurate the report is considering the makeup and views publicly expressed by members of the committee. I’m personally leaning towards ‘they don’t, and can’t, use as more than they contribute’ because they’re not eligible for many benefits.

      • A7thStone@lemmy.world
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        I love how in your last article it’s a human centipede ouroboros

        Macgregor said that “every alleged asylum seeker, illegal migrant pouring in through the border in Texas or wherever else” is given a monthly payment of $2,200.

        Gheen added that ALIPAC “did not make the original claim about the $2,200,” pointing to Carlson’s interview with Macgregor as its source.

        Macgregor cited an article published by a Houston radio station on its website to support the claim he made during the interview, which quotes Gheen and the ALIPAC release. The article was published a week after his interview.

  • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    Did those companies make billions in profit? Or just billions in revenue and did creative accounting and investing so that they didn’t actually make a profit so they don’t need to pay tax?

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    How much was paid with employee income tax? How much was paid with VAT?

    How much did immigrants take out of the system?

    This is the most biased one sided comparison.

    It’s strange how in the when businesses employee people and that wage gets taxed that’s 100% on the employee. But when a business sells a product and it gets taxed that’s 100% on the customer.

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      Imma go ahead and say the income tax & VAT combined don’t equal 97B.

      Additionally, imma guess immigrants took out much less than the 97B they put into the system.

      Fact check me.

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        That’s not how fact checking works.

        Someone’s made a stupid text on image post incorrectly comparing things and didn’t even back that up.

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          Here’s the study. Robert Reich is a former Secretary of Labor known for pushing worker’s rights. He’s generally pretty credible.

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            Funny how that person responded to everyone except for you. You being the person who provided evidence that likely proves them completely wrong.

            Mustn’t draw attention to the argument that beats mine.

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    Posts like this are important, but unfortunately in vain, I’m afraid. Those who still don’t understand it will never understand it. I think they don’t want to. I don’t get it.

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      I’d say it’s still important to post and talk about, not for the people who know and don’t care, but for the people who don’t know and do care.

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    the US Constitution puts the ENTIRE TAX BILL as the responsibilty of corporations, this was illegally changed during WW2. This is why prior to WW2 there was no income tax. We are living in a fascist hell hole because we are not following the legal Constitution. We are following a partial fake. The full text of the original Constitution is available when you read the Constitution, then turn it upside down and read the additional text which is in Latin. Democrats and Republicans are fully aware and refuse to reinstate the Full Constitution. They are both Traitors to the Republic.