• 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’d be a fan of a law that companies who drop support of their product would have to release code that lets 3rd parties or users themselves offer alternative support. If you want to fully abandon a product opensource it. If you’re a big company that doesn’t want to do that release a feature for users to self host before you cut ties. I know it’s not a simple thing to do in the current world but if laws mandated it then tech would have no choice but to adapt.

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      3 months ago

      Effective [some future date], in order to sell any device connected to the Internet (or Bluetooth, or whatever), you must register your entire codebase and all internal documentation with the FTC, and keep it updated, along with any signing keys to lock bootloaders. The day you abandon support, if you haven’t provided everything required for end users to take complete control of their device, your code base and any other IP enters the public domain, and the FTC uses their discretion on release of keys.

      It would take new laws, and you’d have to be careful with language and structure to prevent abuse of “third party” code and abuse of corporate structure to try to prevent old devices from being usable, but you could do it.

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        3 months ago

        I have had a similar idea. Basically some third party that is trusted to be the escrow for all the source code and documentation would basically release it once the company stops supporting it.

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      3 months ago

      This would be an excellent law/regulation that makes complete sense.

      The major companies can most definitely manage this (although they will cry crocodile tears).

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      This is a commendable goal; though it would still rely on good faith that a lot of these companies won’t have.

      They’d rather screw the users anyway, sell the IP and let it rot within the maws of some holding company.

      We’ll need some clauses that the tech cannot go inactive as it trades hands as well.

      Further, some teeth will be needed toward feature deactivation, as there’s nothing stopping a company from yanking features and packaging it up as efficiencies made or product evolution.

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      3 months ago

      Just because a product went defunct does not mean the entire code base is obsolete to the company.

      Suppose I release software that makes a profit for a while, then falls off and starts costing me money, obviously time to retire that thing. However, a ton of code in that original product was a stepping stone for newer projects. I now have two choices.

      A) Drop support and give world+dog my code, giving everyone a look into my existing products.

      B) Keep losing money on the old project and make up for it by overcharging for my latest work.

      That’s a lose-lose proposition.

      Your self-hosting solution sounds mighty fair!

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        3 months ago

        I’ve been in software for more than 20 years now. I’ve done some pretty innovative things from time to time. There is nothing I have ever done or seen in any proprietary code base at any company I’ve ever worked at that isn’t at every other company. The only unique thing at any company is how all the puzzle pieces get connected. It’s pure ego to think that any idea you have in that now open source project is unique or what’s giving you any competitive advantage in your other projects.

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          3 months ago

          If there’s nothing unique or special in any company’s code base, then why does SAP software suck so much more than anything else?

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            3 months ago

            Definitely not supporting their quality, but a ton of the wtf designs are because of legacy customers paying millions to have it.