• flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    No. You can say that about so many laws being made, but telegram simply hosts the most vile shit.

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      2 months ago

      So you’re saying we should shut down any service that allows encrypted communication? Because any service that offers encrypted communication is going to be enticing to someone who commits crimes.

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        2 months ago

        No, we should shut down any service that refuses to take action against its users when presented with proof that they are distributing child porn.

        Encryption only offers so much plausible deniability. Once law enforcement gains access to one of these channels, they have proof of what’s going on, and the content is all hosted by Telegram. When Telegram refuses to cooperate and remove this content, they become complicit in distributing it.

        Encryption isn’t an excuse to violate the law. If Telegram’s policy is not to remove CSAM, then they are a criminal organization.

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          2 months ago

          We should shut down any organization that doesn’t cooperate with police when people are breaking laws or just the laws you want them to help enforce?

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            2 months ago

            No, that’s not what the person is saying in the slightest. Just read their comment again, it’s actually very clear.

            • ravhall@discuss.online
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              2 months ago

              Creating a Telegram Channel to help underage victims of rape in Idaho get abortions out of state without their parent’s consent is also a crime. Would you want to shut them down for allowing those groups?

              If Telegram is indeed knowledgeable of specific groups distributing CSAM, goes into that group and views the material to confirm, and still does nothing about it, then yes… that’s pretty terrible. However, it’s law enforcement’s responsibility to find those people and arrest them. If Telegram is shut down, there will always be another method. TOR, popup forums, file sharing sites like MEGA.

              What I’m saying is focusing on the communication method is like trying to kill a hydra.

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                2 months ago

                Again: not what the person said. They said that if someone proves that you host CSAM, you should take it down.