• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Dunno who those progressives are but most of the progressives I know are not okay with the shift.

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      2 months ago

      And yet they will all vote for her anyway because she is not Trump and is pro-choice.

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        Yup we all (all the progressives I know IRL, not everyone here - I don’t know yall) will fucking vote for Harris while giving her shit and trying to push her to the left because if Trump is elected a lot of people will die. It fucking sucks but we’ve got to play the hand we’re dealt.

        I was, for the record, also planning on voting for Biden in the general if he didn’t drop out while being fucking pissed off about Gaza.

        I’m fully behind whatever pressure you want to put behind trying to force candidates to the left (I have no patience for fucks that decry the “lack of decorum” in protesters) but come election day I’m fucking voting for Harris.

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          I’m 100% here for this. Put pressure on her. Vote for Progressive candidates in the Primary. Push for RCV or something similar so we aren’t having to do ‘risk mitigation’ votes and instead can vote Progressive knowing the main-stream leftist gets our vote if the Progressive doesn’t, or the Progressive vote percentage in the House matches the polls. Protest the shit out of milquetoast third-way bullshittium decisions that just enrich the Moneyed Class. But when the alternative to Team Milquetoast is Team Fascist, I expect EVERYONE to show up for Milquetoast.

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        2 months ago

        Honestly, as I’ve grown older I’ve come to realize most voting is risk mitigation. I was brought up to think it was about making positive change but votes that do that are less common than the risk mitigation votes.

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          I think, unfortunately, part of becoming an adult is realizing just how much fucking inertia awful shit has behind it. Often times in business, even, you’re choosing between two shitty situations - things are rarely ideal.

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          2 months ago

          That’s just a bizarre statement to make - until there’s even an inkling of a shift on reproductive rights your comment is extremely disingenuous.

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            That’s just a bizarre statement to make - until there’s even an inkling of a shift on reproductive rights your comment is extremely disingenuous.

            That’s what you guys said about immigration. I trust Democrats to move to the right.

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              Nah, Democrats have long been absolute shits about immigration. The fact that temporary working visas exist is an affront to labor rights.

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        Democrats claim to be pro choice while doing nothing to protect women’s choice is rather suspect.

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          So you’re going to vote for the overgrown oompaloompa who actively wants to take it away? We unfortunately only have two real choices here.

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            2 months ago

            YOU have 2 options that have been created for you for them to stay in power.

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              Yes, and? Exactly how many freedoms are you willing to allow Trump to take away so you can vote for someone who can’t possibly win?

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                I would rather vote for something and not get it than to vote against something and still get it. You’re willing to settle for table scraps from Democrats so you don’t get table scraps from Republicans. Either way, all you get is table scraps.

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                  Awe, your first time? It only hurts a little bit.

                  We’ll have better luck if we push for systemic change with things like RCV, term limits and overturning citizens united. Otherwise we’ll always be stuck between a rock and a fascist place, and we don’t want to choose the fascist place accidentally.

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                    You chose the fascist place decades ago. blue fascism is just as harmful as red fascism