They should just tell their daddies to make another film. Please daddy please! 20 million dollars is still 12 million dollars after taxes!

Jesus Christ you just described my life for the last six months.

Job is listed as remote

During interview they tell you they expect you to move to bumfuck north dakota within 6 months of starting

I feel like these are the real issues - I can’t tell how much of OP is meant to be a joke … “You forget to check the website and you miss the time”. I mean, that’s on you. Also it’s often easy to blag the magic words an interviewer wants to hear, the real danger is that the job is NOT as advertised.

The number of interviews I used to sit in on, and wonder WTF the interviewer was thinking… One asked a service designer “if you were a type of cake, what would you be?”

Pro tip: for the workday applications with the manual forms, I have a separate file I upload without formatting that perfectly fills out the forms in the fields they want, then I upload a formatted resume.

Cpoy and paste if you can and you need to

You do good work, keep it up. Oh and also, blockquotes are useful for distinguishing quoted text. I hope this makes your life a little easier

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I talk a lot and on many lines

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Posts on lemmy and and a lot of other places support markdown. Its really handy.

Oh man. I’m in my 40s, working full time in an office-based, professional role and renting is fucky even for someone who can prove a stable income. You go to look at a house, only to find 20 other people queued up waiting. You like the house, you offer to rent it, only to find that it’s been rented to someone offering £200 a month more than the list price.

It’s absolute shit.

I am on lifelong disability which means I get a guaranteed amount of money each month for life.

No landlords will touch me, a person with a GUARANTEED INCOME.

However, if you have a job, that you can get fired from or quit the next day, they’ll accept you. Blows my fucking mind.

Btw, for anyone wondering, if I lose my job, the government will step in and give me money for my disability. If I have a job, they don’t give me money. If I have a shit job where I make a couple hundred per month, they’ll cover the difference. I don’t mooch off the government, but my point is that I’m lucky enough to have a safety net, and landlords are so dumb they run away from it.

Same with buying shoes; how do you expect me to go to the shoe store without having shoes to walk in?

And for glasses; how can I find my glasses without glasses?

i hate how we’re supposed to act like we’re the Most Perfect fit for the role, and So Eager! – the most ideal human to ever walk the earth, specifically for this role.

and you get the job and go there and the coworkers aren’t fucking god and apollo, it’s joey and mark

I would rather be raped by Apple than raped be Mongols just saying.

I think the guys in the trenches in WW1 would love to trade places with you

Protip: Fuck your medical bills. At least for now. Low, low, low priority. What qualifications do you have? What experience? What are your skills? If you don’t have answers to those questions, whats your game plan to answer them? For obvious reasons I’m biased, but IT is an amazing field to try and enter right now if you’re able to bear down and learn material for Comptia certifications.

My current (UK) employer emails candidates just to say “sorry, but thanks for applying”. I dont get why any company wouldnt at least have the mechanism to email people an update.

I do that but half of the time when I get a response like that it’s from some automated email that says no one will read any replies to it.

Five years ago, people treated other people like people. Happy for you though!

You can’t set reminders if you never knew the interview existed. It’s still their fault, but it’s an easy mistake to make.

but it’s so rare for you to receive any response that you forget to check the website

I read it differently. It’s an ambience. The author is not taking off actual interviews being scheduled.

Rather, replies to your applications are so few that you end up getting frustrated. Because of that, in the long run, you forget checking the website. Now, if in the meanwhile you get a reply, nobody’s home to receive it.

You miss it not because you’re lazy or careless, but because you’re human and there’s so much you can do to keep hoping.

not really the main point or any reason to dismiss the whole thing. we aren’t playthings for corporations, the whole interviewing facade where we’re supposed to be dutiful and perfect and company-fearing is dumb

Did you misread the second paragraph?

This has happened to me and there’s some confusion in the comments so I’ll attempt to clarify here, it’s not missing an interview in the way we’re perceiving it. What happens is;

On indeed, you can pre-fill out an application and “quick apply” to most jobs, and that’s the entire application process for that job. If you’re accepted for an interview, they will message you on the indeed app or maybe via email.

But many of the jobs you can apply to on indeed don’t accept quick apply and instead direct you to their website, where you apply again, and from then on must log into their site frequently checking back for responses, potential invites to interviews, recommendations for other openings etc.

So they’re not missing an interview they’ve been notified about, they’re missing the notification of an upcoming interview because they didn’t check the site that notified them.

Is that still on them? Yeah, technically. But many, many sites are now doing this on indeed. Back when I was applying it didn’t take me long to be signed up for indeed + DG + Walmart+ Amazon + UPS etc etc.

I’m sure I’m signed up to at least 50 different sites. 99% of those sites will never notify me of anything aside from other job openings.

So you get forgetful sometimes, checking 50 sites a day can do that to you.

Then one of them offers you an interview on their site, but you only checked 40 sites today and spent the rest of your time mass quick applying to 100 new jobs instead of checking the remaining 10 sites that had a .001% chance of actually offering you a job anyway.

I mean, yeah, the blame is still on them. If you’re in desperate need of a job with nothing else going on then you should be religiously checking every site you’re signed up with. However, I can see forgetting to check one or two as well because there are a fucking lot and it’s a lot to remember.

I remember hating to apply to jobs that required me to use their site so, so badly, because they ALREADY had my application from indeed but instead of just using that app they want me to arbitrarily sign up for their site instead, that’s likely much more of a hassle than indeed, and add ANOTHER fucking layer of difficulty to just getting a damn job.

A better way to get employees seems to be to just accept quick applications from indeed, message them on the app and just set up a damn interview. With indeed available I’m not sure why these companies even use their own sites.

Hey friend, I’m sorry that you’ve fucked up a bunch lately. I know the feeling. Just know that you are really valuable to your family and friends, and they’d be extremely hurt if you did do something like that.

Everyone is feeling so stretched right now, and you are not alone. But we will get through this, and things will get easier down the road.

I know it sounds stupid, but money is just… money. Yes we need it to survive in this day, but your life is worth so much more than a bit of cash or debt… and it sounds like you’re a smart person. So just know that those mistakes are a part of your journey, and a part of moulding you into the person you will be in a few years.

New guy botching a production instance, for a developer…isn’t your problem.

Sorry but that’s on them. You shouldn’t be able to deploy bad code to prod. Whoever approved the MR fucked up and you caught the blame. You’re better off without them.

Infra guys like me (networking) yeah, sure, because our test environment happens to also be our prod environment.

It gets better, King

Coding tests are the fucking worst.

Almost never representative of the actual work and usually far more restrictive than the actual work too. (In that you can’t search, might be watched, etc)

I feel like for software, the big barrier is getting past HR/recruiters. Once you get to talk to someone technical, it’s a lot easier. But hell if I know how the heck the non technical staff decides how to progress people.

I’ve done tech interviews. They’re leetcode, which isn’t great, but at least it’s fair. There’s no magic words there. I just want to know if you can reasonably approach a problem (and I don’t pick anything I couldn’t get hired on), can show problem solving skills, and show an understanding of algorithms and data structures. You don’t even need to solve the problem if you can come close and your thinking out loud shows good skills. And most definitely don’t need to be an optimal solution (though it helps).

But getting to the tech screen, I don’t even know. I’ve made internal referrals that never even get assigned to anyone, despite a glowing referral. Maybe it’s just super competitive. Maybe there’s a scarcity of low level positions (though I know many teams that are top heavy and only need low level positions). I really know nothing about what it takes to get to the tech screen level. But once you’re there, I really do think it’s a lot more reasonable (not at all perfect, but better).

Ok, but - and please don’t think I mean this in an offensive way, I am asking this in the most naive way - isn’t that your whole job? I get that it is annoying, but you don’t waste 30 hours, you just work 30 hours. Hours that you get paid for and hours that you would use to do the same job/try to hire for another position otherwise. Of course you could get more done (i.e. more people hired) in a unit of time, but at the end of the day that’s not your problem really, is it? You did everything correctly. You still get your hours paid.

Do you get the impression that these are real humans lying to try and get the job themselves? Or is it just spam from vendor agencies conjuring hypothetical candidates that they in turn will need to find, taking a cut in the process.

You had me up until one way interview. I don’t respect any hiring manager that cannot face me in an interview. Never do one way interviews because there is no opportunity for the candidate to interview the company.

Candidates lie

I was a software developer and I often interviewed prospective candidates by phone. It was hilarious how often I heard keyboard tapping in the background after asking a question, and sometimes I could hear other people whispering. I was like c’mon - I’m only phone interviewing to see if it’s worth our time to bring you in for an in-person interview. You’re not going to be able to Google shit (or have your friends do it) when you’re here, so this tactic is not going to land you a job.

Yeah whenever I go for an interview for a public position, I try to be mindful that the person or people I’m speaking to are probably exhausted. But unless you’ve got a reference to a private posting directly through a back channel, then I don’t think there’s any way around it - hiring for a role is hard. But ideally, you’ll have the person for years if you can retain them, so doing it right is worthwhile.

then no show on an appointment THEY MAKE

I scare myself that I will miss recruiter appointments, I know that I would make a terrable canadate when I was (and still kinda am) going through mential issues.

Headhunters talk big and deliver bottom barrel candidates, no one likes recruiters, so great candidates hardly use them.

Thank you, thats good to know. Even worse are the orgs that “job hunt for the 3 legged deer of our society” . The corrupt ones will make you feel crippled. ironically, hurting your mential health, making you an unfit canadate and exasurbating the problem.

Ok, but - and please don’t think I mean this in an offensive way, I am asking this in the most naive way - isn’t that your whole job? I get that it is annoying, but you don’t waste 30 hours, you just work 30 hours. Hours that you get paid for and hours that you would use to do the same job/try to hire for another position otherwise. Of course you could get more done (i.e. more people hired) in a unit of time, but at the end of the day that’s not your problem really, is it? You did everything correctly. You still get your hours paid.

If you’ve got a degree, your institution’s job boards are lightyears better than Indeed. Keep working on the personal projects though, they help once you have an interview. ^.^

If you haven’t already, make a condensed version of your CV in point form. Literally one page, no more. Clear headings (education, experience, skills) with a few key bullets (3-4 max) per heading.

Remember, this terrible situation is due in part to the fact that services like Indeed make employers think they shouldn’t have to invest in hiring at all, so they don’t . They’re lazy, so your approach has to adapt to that .

Hang in there, I’ve been where you are. You’ll get through it.

Very respectable

Hey, maybe start out by looking for bits instead. Sorry, I’m ashamed of my own joke, but it demands to be let free.

More than half of my recent applications all used the same workday application service, but you need a unique workday account for every fucking company. Why in the world is it not just a single account‽

This is exactly what I’ve encountered. I only opened Indeed to see what ppl in my profession are being offered in other places. Places with affordable houses. I’m worried my living situation will become a problem in the area I live, it’s only getting higher.

Like you, I find employers are completely unaware of this and aren’t offering enough.

They are also asking for more qualifications than they are willing to pay for, so far I’ll bide my time.

The other annoyance is I can’t ask for any feedback on why my application was passed over.

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