• hamandjam@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The thing people always overlook is that some of those names were given to the shapes that were seen thousands of years ago. And since then the position of those stars as we perceive them have changed quite a bit. And if they’ve moved in dissimilar directions, there can be quite a substantial change in the shape we see compared to what they saw. So the older the designation of a constellation is, the more it’s distorted.

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      1 year ago

      Due to the sheer size of space, this is most likely to have happened to stars closer to us (same thing as parallax effect, the same speed / moved distance moves something close more angular degrees across the sky)

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          That just rotates the sky relative to somebody on earth, that doesn’t really change how each star sign looks from earth if the stars are far away

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      Yes. The Greeks are literally why you have to pretend to respect people that talk about Pisces in ascendency or whatever, and their astrologers were their astronomers, they recognized the difference between observation and divination but used the terms interchangeably nonetheless.

      There are some famous examples who doubtless thought the mysticism was nonsense, but it was what paid the bills so they told their patrons what they wanted to hear and then went back to their math and charts.

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        It’s older than the Greeks. The astrologers in Mesopotamia already collected historic events as a source for predictions

        The Greeks mostly copied that. If they created it, they wouldn’t have used this ‘goat’ as the first constellation of the year that started with the spring equinox.

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    Mallrat to “Astrologers”:

    Ha ha ha ha. You dumb bastard. It’s not a (goat)… it’s a Sailboat.