• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    I would like to act like such a person. How would I do that? (I do want to help you, but I don’t think you would believe me)

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        Thank you. But I don’t feel the urge to commit suicide. I don’t think the hypothetical person would either.

        How would you like me to talk to you?

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          I don’t want you to talk to me - I want you to listen to me and internalize what I teach you. Saying anything back is simply the petulant resistance of a child that won’t eat their vegetables.

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            I am listening to you. But I don’t think you want to listen to me.

            Is there nothing I could say that would convince you that not everyone is trying to kill you?

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              I don’t think you want to listen to me.

              Why would I? All you’d do is tell me lies, or otherwise speak in bad faith with intent to harm.

              Is there nothing I could say that would convince you that not everyone is trying to kill you?

              NO! The entire goddamned point is that I refuse to be dominated by you - that includes my mind. My mind is off limits - ONLY I can change it. Every attempt anyone else makes to change it is interpreted as an attempt to brainwash - equivalent to assault.

              Only actions matter - but the time to act was over forty years ago. Waiting until I am the edge of death to act is itself an act of bad faith.

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                If there’s absolutely nothing I can do to convince you, it isn’t a logical argument you’re going with. It’s a philosophical or emotional one. Logical evidence based arguments would change if compelling contrary evidence was provided.