• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Thank you. But I don’t feel the urge to commit suicide. I don’t think the hypothetical person would either.

    How would you like me to talk to you?

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      I don’t want you to talk to me - I want you to listen to me and internalize what I teach you. Saying anything back is simply the petulant resistance of a child that won’t eat their vegetables.

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        I am listening to you. But I don’t think you want to listen to me.

        Is there nothing I could say that would convince you that not everyone is trying to kill you?

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          I don’t think you want to listen to me.

          Why would I? All you’d do is tell me lies, or otherwise speak in bad faith with intent to harm.

          Is there nothing I could say that would convince you that not everyone is trying to kill you?

          NO! The entire goddamned point is that I refuse to be dominated by you - that includes my mind. My mind is off limits - ONLY I can change it. Every attempt anyone else makes to change it is interpreted as an attempt to brainwash - equivalent to assault.

          Only actions matter - but the time to act was over forty years ago. Waiting until I am the edge of death to act is itself an act of bad faith.

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            If there’s absolutely nothing I can do to convince you, it isn’t a logical argument you’re going with. It’s a philosophical or emotional one. Logical evidence based arguments would change if compelling contrary evidence was provided.

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                  The problem with telling you is that it helps you fake the evidence. I have to assume that once I tell you, everything you give that looks like that evidence must be assumed to be faked.

                  Evidence can exist, but human beings are too dishonest to present it. Human beings cannot be trusted - and humanity’s history of dishonesty is all the proof I need for that. I will never trust human beings, as a moral compunction.

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                    So no one can tell or show you anything to change your mind? Then we’re back to where we started with a philosophical or a moral position rather than a logical one.

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                    humanity’s history of dishonesty is all the proof I need for that.

                    Also, history books and discussion is more about grand state actors and conquests, not the everyday kindness and selflessness. It’s usually the norm, so not noteworthy to history.