Of course, not Tomi Lahren though…

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    Well, no, my grandmother had conspiratorial thought, and once she passed, while Jones wasn’t super popular (or influential) and at the time he was amusing and harmless, he made me nostalgically think of her. So I kept it on in the back ground. As I became an adult I shifted to less time consuming way to interact with his content as I questioned the ethics of watching his content directly. Dood was a fun crazy back in the day. Now, yikes.

    As a Floridian, I have seen straight up swastika tattoos and SS lightning bolts on necks. The white supremacist movement did adopt Nazi iconography a few decades ago. They aren’t literally nazis, but are people who are pushing Ur-giest adjacent philosophy alongside the same sources and arguments. And – no – I don’t see them around every corner because they’re in the super minority, but thoughts like Great-Replacment theory are becoming increasingly mainstream. You’re putting thoughts in my head in lieu of making an argument and inventing an “argument”, imagine I think that, and are attacking it instead. Where did I claim there were Nazis around every corner? I claimed there exists at least one supremacist and they appeared on Joe’s show.

    Look, you’re shifting away from a fairly straight forward argument the Joe had a white supremacist on his podcast. I gave you a digestible source to discover that claim and cite their sources in a verifiable way. Jones doesn’t just dabble in conspiracy, he purposefully has vocal white supremacists on his show regularly, doesn’t address it, and pushes his audience to their spaces while dog-whistling white supremacist arguments. See Feuntes appearing on his show. I know this because I watched his show for years

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      Look, you’re shifting away from a fairly straight forward argument the Joe had a white supremacist on his podcast.

      Again, cannot take you seriously man. Would you take a flat earther seriously? I doubt it. If your going to call a leftie podcast host a nazi and white supermacist, why should I take you seriously?

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        I’m … Super confused. I’m claiming Alex Jones is a white supremacist. You claimed Joe never had supremacist on his podcast. I said he had Jones on, therefore he has.

        I never said Joe was a white supremacist. Where did I say that?

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          I just assumed you thought Joe Rogan was a nazi or whatever since Joe had guests on you thought were evil. Most people who use the word nazi like salt at the dinner table will consider a podcast hostman who had “evil” guests as a nazi or whatever for simply having the “evil” guest on.

          Same with Alex Jones. Alex Jones is not a nazi or white supremacist, he is a nutjob.

          Understand now bud?

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            There’s no need to be condescending

            No, from what understand about Joe’s brand is he platforms unpopular ideas. He let’s them say their thing and goes on. It can include supremacists, and pseudoscientist. Or fun guests people want to hear from. I say, let him do his thing. Like you, and other people said in the comments section have said, most of these people hang themselves on their own statments. But there’s a worry in the back of my head of pushing traffic towards these people – that’s here nor there in our discussion. I took umbridge with the statement that supremacists don’t appear on Joe’s which Alex is one.

            Jones even had David Duke appear on his show. He had a pretty groveling debate with him, but you can look into that if you want. He repetitively has supremacist guests on show – I don’t know what to tell you. It’s pretty slanted.

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              There’s no need to be condescending

              Well thinking anyone a nazi and to keep repeating such nonsense, expect people to get impatient with you.

              I took umbridge with the statement that supremacists don’t appear on Joe’s which Alex is one.

              Again, cannot take you seriously with that opinion. Believe in your leftie worldview view all you want, some will agree, others will roll their eyes and move on.

              Again, take my advice and just drop this nonsense worldview and move on. Who cares what crazy Alex Jones says or who is on Joe Rogan’s show this week.