• AA5B@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Yep, both sides the same. Voting for universal healthcare and achieving it, is the same as voting against and having hundreds of thousands without. Voting to respect everyone’s reproductive rights is the same as trying to control other people’s choices. Voting to improve education is the same as starving education. And most of all not understanding people’s poor choices is exactly the same as treason and election fraud

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      3 months ago

      You haven’t understood me. I’m not talking about specific policies and which ones are better; I’m talking about the very foundations of democracy. In a democracy, those in power are chosen by the majority. If you believe that the majority (or close to it) is idiotic, how can you believe that democracy is better than other systems? In your own response, you make it clear that you think your ideas are better and should be implemented regardless of whether they convince people or whether the majority wants them. How can you call yourself a democrat in those circumstances?

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        3 months ago

        That’s a really big stretch, even before complaining about the electoral college, nor did I focus on my ideas but listening to the candidates, watching actual behaviors, accepting reality

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          But it’s much simpler than that. Do you believe that decisions made by the majority of citizens are legitimate and valid even if they go against your ideas, yes or no? If the answer is yes, it doesn’t matter if your ideas are to raise or lower taxes; it doesn’t matter if your ideas are for healthcare for all or none. You believe in democracy, and then we’ll decide which team you’re on and whether it’s ‘better’ or ‘worse’ ethically.

          I’m not from the USA, but from the outside, it seems like there are a lot of people who don’t accept decisions unless they align with their ideas, no matter how much popular support they have. And those ideas can be great (and may align with mine), but imposing them is never a good idea.