• blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    He will according to his own professed and acted stance on Israel.
    You say it like he already wasn’t a super killer during his first term?
    I’m not USian, but my country had a Trump-wannabe as president, so I know very well how it is.

    • AIhasUse@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      16
      ·
      3 months ago

      Who did trump bomb? Show me a clip where trump says he will bomb palestine. Ill wait. I’m not talking about that time when he said he could end it fast that people with nothing else pretend can only mean a basket full of nukes.

      • blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        He kept arming Israel at least the same as previous presidents, so certainly some of the bombs being used now were given by him. And he also supported the Zionists in the Israeli government.

        • AIhasUse@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          14
          ·
          3 months ago

          He gave a single digit percentage of bombs that got detonated when compared to biden.

          • blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            3 months ago

            “Yes, but it wasn’t that bad” <- you are here at the coping list.

            Shall we keep going until you get to “they deserved it”?

            Because you already dropped your mask, it’s clear you don’t care about Palestinians, you only care about Trump.

            • AIhasUse@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              7
              ·
              3 months ago

              Nope. You made that up. You are coping because the horse you bet on keeps kicking Palestians to death. It is nice that you are at least aware of the coping idea, that’s your first step. I think Trump is a prick. I won’t vote for him.

              • blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                6
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                3 months ago

                Again, I’m not USian, I don’t have a horse in this race.

                I’m glad Genocide Joe is out, and hope Harris listens and doesn’t follow the same bad path.

                Anyway it certainly is more a problem in the legislature, the President “only obeys”.

                But it’s delusional to think Trump won’t try to make it worse.

                • AIhasUse@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  8
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  I don’t know who will be worse. There is the obvious fact that media with a long-term liberal bias says he’s the hitler2.0. Maybe they are not crying wolf this time, they also said he would end the free world last time, and he didn’t. We do know that biden and his crew couldn’t or didn’t want to find anything other than pouring millions(billions?) of hellfire down on the heads of children. I can’t say that I know so for sure that the massacre happening over there is 100% better than a trump presidency. Surprisingly, whenever people do say they know this 100%, all they have is that they were told this, they have no actions to point at.

                  Trump is a raping, thief, likely a pedo, most likely has killed a fair number of people, but he hasn’t genocided. Biden/Harris have the majority of the media on their side and they have genocided. What a shitty choice. Give me the never genocided choice, though, because 100k+ headcount is much worse than 100 rapes and a few murders no matter what color tie they wear. Either way, I won’t vote for any of those scum buckets. Choosing either side and claiming moral superiority is as absurd as anything anyone ever does.

                  • blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    4
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    Certainly a fair share of COVID deaths are his fault, and by making Putin confident the ongoing genocide attempt against Ukraine also.

      • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        Show me a clip where trump says he will bomb palestine. Ill wait.

        Show us a clip where Biden said he would bomb Palestine. We’ll wait.

        • AIhasUse@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          3 months ago

          If you don’t know about all the support and weapons that biden has been giving since October, then you are just late to the conversation, and you have a bunch of catching up to do. This isn’t in any way a disputed thing.

          • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            3 months ago

            Okay, so we’re not talking about active bombing of Palestine anymore, good.

            What makes you think Trump wouldn’t give Israel even more support and weapons?

            • AIhasUse@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              3 months ago

              Right, since biden gives the bombs to Israel to actively drop instead of hopping in a plane and dropping them himself, it is OK. I know you know the kinds of gymnastics you are forced to play here. I also know that if anyone else who isn’t on your side was doing this, you would be all over them. This is exactly the problem. Intellectual dishonesty in political discussions. You feel like you deserve the right to lie because you think the other side does the same. They do do the same, the result of this is you two groups of self justified compulsive liars living in your own echo chambers, making no progress and learning nothing.

              • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                3 months ago

                Right, since biden gives the bombs to Israel to actively drop instead of hopping in a plane and dropping them himself, it is OK.

                That is NOT what I said. You complain about intellectual dishonesty but in the same breath put words into my mouth that I did not say. If you want to be intellectually honest, why don’t you answer the very simple question instead of going off on irrelevant tangents?

                What makes you think Trump wouldn’t give Israel even more support and weapons?

                • AIhasUse@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  4
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  All we have to go on is what people have done. Trump never genocided anyone. Trump barely supplied any weapons or did any warring. This is not the case with nearly every president for the last 100 years. Biden has shown his absolute willingness to fund and supply weapons for a genocide. I can’t tell the future, but I can honestly look at the past because I’m not hell-bent on ignoring all the bad things one side does.

                  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    3 months ago

                    All we have to go on is what people have done.

                    Not exactly true. For example, why do you think Trump has never once uttered the words “cease fire” in regards to Israel/Palestine? Seems like a pretty simple way to signal that you want Israel to stop killing people.

                    Trump never genocided anyone.

                    Neither has Biden, or Harris for that matter.

                    Trump barely supplied any weapons or did any warring. This is not the case with nearly every president for the last 100 years. Biden has shown his absolute willingness to fund and supply weapons for a genocide.

                    …because there was no major conflict between Israel and Palestine during his presidency. He was far more supportive of Israel than any other president, so it’s pretty safe to say he’d give them just as many arms or more than Biden has.

                    I can’t tell the future, but I can honestly look at the past because I’m not hell-bent on ignoring all the bad things one side does.

                    Are you sure about that? Do you not think Trump has done any bad things at all?