Some Tesla engineers secretly started designing a Cybertruck alternative because they ‘hated’ it::“They were like, ‘You can’t be serious.’ They didn’t want to have anything to do with it,” Franz von Holzhausen said, according to Walter Isaacson.
Cyber truck looks absolutely shit. The only thing it had going for itself was that it would have been the very first fully electric pick up truck - when it was first announced.
After more than 5 years Tesla is nowhere close to mass producing the ugly while Ford stole the thunder with announcing and launching the F150 Lightning. If I was in market for an EV pick up, I’d no longer consider Tesla cyber truck, let alone the Fascist ElMo’s shenanigans.
Good luck getting a base model F150 at a decent price. I tried earlier this year and only 3 dealers East of the Mississippi had the base model and they all wanted $30,000 OVER MSRP. Ford can lick my butt for not making enough base models and trying to push their XLT and platinums starting at $75k. I need a truck to work in not have it open and close the lift gate for me.
At this point I’ll take a shit looking truck at a decent price over whatever the duck Ford and their dealers thought was a good idea with producing so little of the base model, not to mention base model with extended range batteries were ONLY available to fleet purchasers.
Two years ago I was going to but my first ford, my first truck, AND my first electric because it was the same car. On paper the F150 Lightning seems like the most practical family car ever made. Dealer markup and low volume completely killed it. Ford should eliminate dealerships and sell direct with fixed pricing.
It would be great if they just made more base models. They’re “sold out” for this year already, but you still can order the luxury trims for trucks that haven’t been made yet. I’m not convinced that Ford actually wants to sell any base models.
I walked away and bought a Bolt EUV instead.
It’s almost like lithium supply chains are absolutely fucked, and EVs would get zero traction without government subsidies.
Feels good though. Saving the world. (/S)
It hasn’t even been 4 years
Gotta cut everyone some slack when estimating time since the pandemic. 3 years was 10 years ago.
You’re right on that one, the struggle is real. Comes up in conversation pretty often.
I’m 46. As far as I’m concerned, the 90s was last week.
Same, and my music taste still reflects that :(
Any day now, the cyber truck will come whizzing down the hyperloop with its sub 10 micron build tolerance and tornado proof glass, fully autonomously driving of course. Any day now.
With its flat body panels flapping in the wind.
Sexy
S3XY.
Amphibiously (briefly)
That was pretty painful. Not even a rumor that he said it, he tweeted it lol
Literally any vehicle can be briefly amphibious.
I really want to see one after it’s hit by a heavy hail storm.
hit by a heavy hail storm.
…or even a champagne bottle!
Obviously, it will have front-mounted flamethrowers.
Just after the Tesla semi!
It looks like a shitty futuristic movie prop
From the 80s
Not just shitty, but extremely cheap.
There’s no way in hell this shit doesn’t completely flop, right? Like, who in their right mind would buy this garbage aside from techbros riding Elon’s pole?
There’s a ton of goobers that want it, but very few are actually going to be able to afford it. It’s going to be 80k plus
I know someone who preordered this atrocity immediately. He of course drives a Tesla already and was convinced it was fully self-driving capable (3 years ago! LOL).
Some people really embrace Musk’s reality distortion field. Other co-workers just made fun of him and asked him if he was going to put his current Tesla S on his Cybertruck’s truckbed to max out his Tesla fanboyism.
If it weren’t for Musk standing to make a profit from it and Tesla’s history of questionable design decisions and quality issues, I’d potentially be interested in one. I like how it looks (although my aesthetic choices are certainly not everyone’s cup of tea,) and the specs are pretty impressive if they manage to deliver on them.
There’s a lot of hunger out there for more EV trucks, musk fanboys will gobble up anything he is involved in, and lots of people make questionable vehicle purchases, I think it will sadly sell just fine.
I predict it will flop harder than the Segway.
Wait, should I stop expecting the Segway to finally become the next big thing??
Was the Segway a flop? I feel like they were popular with university campuses and the like.
Here’s to hoping Musk tries some extreme cyber trucking on a very high and dangerous cliff somewhere too.
wait it’s still in process, not out yet? How long is the development during, for this horror?
It will be a moderate success, I suspect. Owing more to the massive demand for electric vehicles than the cyber truck’s particular design.
No chance it will outsell the f150 lightning, except possibly if Ford can’t build enough to meet demand.
I don’t like Elon and I don’t like trucks but I like the cybertruck design 🙂 it’s just refreshingly new design on the road
Refreshingly new? It looks like someone started 3D modelling a Sprinter Trueno, but gave up after making the first low poly draft.
I like this sort of art
Something that looks straight out of a Hulk Hogan action show is refreshingly new to you? It looks like a late 80s early 90s toy.
Sorry, I’m not that old 😅
It’s looks like a little kid was drawing a house and halfway said, fuck it, it’s a car and put wheels on it.
Homer Simpson designed a better car than Elon.
I think a sequel to that episode is due.
I thought he was always the only engineer tho. This implies he does not do his own designs. Very sus. /s
musk is not an engineer
It was supposed to be sarcasm but I guess it didn’t translate well via text. I’ll add the /s, sorry :)
(I am an engineer, so this lie by him has always irked me)
Engineer =/= designer
He’s not the designer, either, that’s the sad part… He just chose between designs others created.
He’s a designer the way Nigel Tuffnel designed the Stonehenge set piece on a napkin.
Completely flat steel’s gonna ding like a bitch and it’ll never come out. You’ll need an entire new sheet to replace it if you want it to look right.
That said, it will never look right since it’s not being built with thermal expansion in mind.
You could Bondo and paint the entire thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But nothing will ever make it look good
Drive one from California to Texas and see where the body panels pop off.
So both the engineers and everyone in the comments is just saying they hate/like the look of it? That’s the last important part. As I understand it, the Cybertruck is never going to be allowed to the roads in Europe because of how unsafe it is. That’s what people should be interested in. Looks can be pleasing to some and ugly to others and that’s ok.
I’ve been wondering about its crumple zones. So… does it not have any ?
the bodies of children it’s software won’t detect will have plenty of crumple zones, don’t see what’s the issue
You just know Elon had a personal hand in designing it, because there’s no other reason a car company would go ahead and build the equivalent of “The Homer”.
Am I the only person besides Elon who likes the cybertruck? I hate agreeing with that idiot on anything, but I think the cybertruck looks cool.
I thought the concept looked cool, but the one driving around now looks absolutely fucking terrible imo.
I mean I respect the opinion. I honestly think the design just needs to be workshopped. You could absolutely market a futuristic all metal pickup with bullet proof windows and all the other stupid shit it does. It’s just the design that’s the problem. It’s all Elon, and as we know now Elon is actually dumb as fuck. He’s a guy who mistook his type two bipolar symptoms as ‘flashes of genius’, got lucky in the dot com boom, and is now too rich to be told no.
You need that guy in your corner that says ‘I like the first draft Elon, but what if we changed a few things, I think you’re on to something’. Elon fired all those guys. And he probably flatly refused to change his initial design. So we have this stupid shit.
All I can think about when I hear about how this guy conducts himself in business is Gavin Belson from Silicon Valley
I mean, I doubt he did any of the designing of the truck at all…he may have pointed at some presented options and selected this one, but that’s probably the most “designing” he did…this is the shitty design-work of other people, put on display by him.
It’s intentionally designed to look polarizing. You’re not gonna find a lot of people sitting on the fence on this one and since it looks so different from every other car on the market there’s gonna be a lot of people who aren’t into the change. But yeah I hate it.
Yes. It looks stupid.
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It’s this. I want a Tron themed EV and I want it to not look stupid driving around suburbia.
And I’m afraid that those two things are mutually exclusive. Part of the cyberpunk aesthetic is the lack of soccer moms and hotdog stands.
It looks like a cheap, “futuristic” car that would be in a vintage sci-fi movie.
I mean, there is nothing else on the road that looks like it for better or worse
It looks like a car drawn by a 5 year old.
I’m not even saying that as an insult, that’s literally what it looks like.
My problem with it is that it’s just extremely boring imo
I think it looks okay but it’s just way too big
It’s smaller than a F-150.
That’s too big too
I disagree with you, but not because I’m a particular fan but because I think trucks are meant to do a job and not be any kind of showpiece or daily errand-runner. To me, a truck should be large and capable and only used when those capabilities are needed.
Honestly, the current consumer electric trucks are silly because their performance envelope is very small compared to their price. They are too expensive and heavy (in lithium and energy consumption) to make sense as a grocery getter and they are too limited to actually haul a real load or take a trailer camping.
I applaud the effort and I do think the F-150 is cool and represents solid progress in the state of the art, but I think the most efficient and environmental option is to keep a smaller efficient electric sedan for most routine driving and maintain an older large diesel truck for when it’s needed. No need to build new iron, there’s plenty of good trucks that can be kept on the road with TLC.
There are also industrial electric and hybrid (turbine-electric) trucks which are amazing, but we’re talking multi million dollar specialty vehicles.
Yep.
I like it, but honestly, the bigger reason I want it is the supposed 14k+ tow capacity.
If it doesn’t actually achieve that, which I’m definitely dubious it will, it’s a nonstarter for me.
I love it too. It’s completely ridiculous and ugly in a way that appeals to me.
I’m indifferent to it, but the amount of people who give a shit is hilarious to me. If it goes 500+ miles, requires no paint and is cheaper than other electric trucks, it’s a win in my book. So weird how people use vehicles as an extension of who they are. It’s a fucking truck. Have you seen the competition? Tundras, F150, Sierra, and Silverado all look like ass.
They do all look like utter shit. But the cybertruck looks like single-digit iq shit, the other ones are at least closer to the center of the bell curve, even if they have tribal tattoos, goatees, and listen to the home depot guitar riff on repeat.
I’ll get one if it has 500 miles of range. I have a reservation but might wait to see how close Chevy gets before making a choice.
It could look like a potato for all I care as long as it can haul a bed full of stuff for 500mi.
I think it’s mostly that the roof comes to a point. If it had a flat roof it’d look a lot better.
Hasn’t Tesla’s design language always been about not rocking the boat aesthetically? The model S looks nice, but except for the lack of a grille it kinda just looks like any other car. You could make an EV look pretty weird as you don’t really need an engine compartment, but it’s harder to sell someone on both an exotic drivetrain and an exotic appearance. This think looks like it fell out of blade runner…
It also doesn’t look very aerodynamic. I have some concerns about range, especially considering that Tesla doesn’t exactly have the best record of honesty in that particular area.
I guess we’ll see how it sells. Eventually.
This thing looks like it fell out of the 1997 Blade Runner computer game if Westwood had decided to go with polygonal 3D graphics instead of pre-rendered FMV and voxel 3D.
This think looks like it fell out of blade runner…
The entire reason I was ever potentially interested in the cybertruck was how fuckin weird it looks.
Specifically this take from another poster
This thing looks like it fell out of the 1997 Blade Runner computer game if Westwood had decided to go with polygonal 3D graphics
I love that shit.
It looks weird but no worse than any other truck. Anyone that tells you an F150 is aesthetically pleasing is full of shit.
There’s a lot to hate. It’s insanely ugly. It’s like a PT Cruiser and a Nissan Cube mated and all the worst car genes went right into the CybeR TruCk.
Slightly off-topic, but do you know what I hated the most about the Nissan Cube? IT WASN’T A FUCKING CUBE!
Atleast make it look like the classic brick aka the Cherokee XJ sport.
To to mention that it’s an absolute hazard to pedestrians and cyclists. I hope that if this thing gets released, the EU just straight up bans it from the roads.
This thing, while not as body-crushing as a twice-raised SUV, will still fuck you up acting like a blunt knife.
I am still very confused why it’s not called the X Truck or CyberX TruX or something stupid containing the letter X
He already has the Tesla Model X. Probably why.
The Tesla models are S, 3, X and Y. Because Musk is a child. He’s such a child that he tried to get the 3 to be Model E, but Ford owned the trademark.
He is also such a child that he had to give his daughter Exa Dark the nickname Y, because he forgot he named his other son X.
He is also a douchebag. Fucking dude has
710 kids claims to spend half the week with all of them. Claims he works over 100 hours a week and somehow also is the best person to be CEO of four companies… want proof CEOs don’t really do much work. Here it is.What a fucking ding dong this guy is.
Keep those designs in your back pocket. Teslas gonna need something to replace the Cybertruck with after it flops and investors finally oust Elon.
They’ll never oust him. If they do, they won’t be able to ride Musk’s reputation as an engineering and tech genius and they’ll have to finally address all the issues plaguing Tesla (terrible service, unreliable build quality, various lawsuits) and I doubt they can afford to actually invest in those things and keep turning a profit.
The sales of the Model Y are more than making up for any dud Tesla puts out right now.
