• conditional_soup@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    I’ve been critical of Biden on several things, currently the fact that I don’t think he’s up to the demand of the campaign season. All that said, I’ve been very clear that I would vote for a wet sandwich before I vote for Trump or don’t vote. I think most third party voters are coming at this from a genuine place; after all, we’ve never had two more unpopular candidates running against each other. But the MFs telling you not to vote are up to some shit. IIRC, only one party’s voters are easily dissuaded.

    • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      4 months ago

      we’ve never had two more unpopular candidates running against each other

      Have you ever heard Al Gore speak? It’s like listening to paint dry. He was the original boring Hillary before she was even a Senator. George W was widely considered an idiot, but that was partly an act.

      John Kerry in 2004 was similarly boring. I had forgotten who ran in that election until I looked it up. Obama was an outlier in being “exciting”. Trump’s insanity is not the norm for a presidential candidate. It’s usually idiocy from the Republicans and boredom from the Democrats.

      • doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        Make sure to support the LGBT news orgs while it’s still legal. (And also once it’s illegal, if you can)

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      9
      ·
      4 months ago

      I’ve been critical of Biden on several things, currently the fact that I don’t think he’s up to the demand of the campaign season. All that said, I’ve been very clear that I would vote for a wet sandwich before I vote for Trump or don’t vote.

      That’s fine.

      Most Americans aren’t like you and we’re fucked if the choice is between Trump and a wet sandwich.

      • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        Spoiler alert.

        There’s a tendency among democratic voters, speaking as one myself, to imagine that fascism will simply burn to ash upon losing a federal election. In this regard, I think it’s time to be honest with ourselves about the situation we find ourselves in. I think that the recent SCOTUS decision was the death knell of the Republic. Between that and the fact that project 2025 isn’t going to just vanish in a puff of smoke if the Republicans lose this year, and the knowledge that the democrats won’t make serious enough changes, well… Maybe this years, maybe in four years, maybe in eight, we’re going to end up with a proper dictator.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          4 months ago

          I absolutely agree, but I’m just focusing on the moment as it has presented itself.

          If we’re going to defeat fascism we need to build an actual antifascist party and political movement, and the Democrats ain’t it.