• starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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      Along with mandatory spay/neuter. Make it a crime to intentionally avoid spaying and neutering cats and dogs.

      Oh, you’re a breeder? I used to work at a no kill animal shelter. You’re the bane of my, and every stray animal’s, existence. FUCK animal breeders.

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        Remember folks, adopt, don’t shop. Not only is it just significantly more moral, mutts are far less likely to have health issues from inbreeding that will shorten their lives. You get more time with your four legged loved ones

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        I mean, if such a campaign is ever completely successful, along with one for capturing or fixing stray and feral animals, there would need to be some amount of breeding of them or they’d eventually go extinct. Perhaps with regulation on both practices that lead to unnecessary health problems (like inbreeding or breeding for harmful traits like squashed faces) and on numbers to avoid breeding more of a specific sort of animal than there exists demand for.

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          Maybe add a safeguard to it, so that when local animal shelters are at 10% capacity the regulation is temporarily lifted or something. Realistically, it would never be totally successful anyway.

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        Are you confusing ‘breeder’ with ‘pet mill’? Ghetto breeding was horrible to my family involved in animal care and salvation. Actual breeders, though, not so much.

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          I’m talking about anyone who intentionally takes an unneutered male animal and an unspayed female animal and intentionally puts them together to make and sell babies. Especially inbreeders. The only purebred animal that I can accept is sheepdogs, because they aren’t bred for looks, they’re bred for intelligence.

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            All older breeds were breed for some use at some time.

            Greated there are some modern breeds that are done for looks only and now care for the dogs health which I agree is an issue, but preserving historic breeds has merit.

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        I mean, there’s responsible breading and irresponsible breeding. My mum has always kept setters of both the Irish and English varieties. The breeders she gets them aren’t just pumping endless dogs out for profit, they’re taking good care of the bitches.

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          Unless the shelters in your area are consistently well below capacity, it’s still incredibly immoral

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            We don’t really have “shelters” in the same way as the US in the UK. As far as I know passes like the RSPCA and Battersea Dogs home aren’t at capacity, they don’t publicise that they are. The one thing we do well in the UK is love our pets.

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      Not everywhere are cats a problem.

      They are literally native to Africa and parts of Asia. In most of Europe they have been held for thousands of years and are not a threat to the ecosystems.

      Taking Countries with invasive species as a global role model makes no sense.

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        Domestic cats have been in the UK for ~2000 years, and wildcats for >~8000 years.

        Their only real predators in the UK are cars and dogs, and most British bird species are well acquainted with cats, and on the whole aren’t at high risk. Recommendations say an outdoor cat is a healthy, happy cat.

        The RSPB (bird conservation charity) doesn’t find them a major problem here, but do recommend:

        1. Neuter them
        2. Keep them in at dawn, dusk & night
        3. If they ever kill a bird, put a bell or beeper on the collar

        Which seems a reasonable set of recommendations.

        On the other hand, the USA and Australia don’t have the thousands of years of history of cats as part of the ecosystem, and they have all these wild dog-type-things and snappy reptile things etc, so the cats are in more danger, and the native bird species are at higher risk. Recommendations say an outdoor cat is a bird-murdering machine that’s about to get run over by a giant SUV and then eaten by drop-bears.

        My Eastern European neighbours think it’s weird that we let the cats inside at all. They think they should live entirely outside.

        So I guess “different countries, different rules”.

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          More than countries, different ecosystems different rules. Mainland USA and Hawaii have different ecological rules for good reason.