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    I mean, I hate him, but he’s right. Reform are basically the newest farage far right party, so the rabid nazis of britain aren’t satisfied with the bullshit the tories are serving up.

    EDIT : they got fed up of still seeing ethnic minorities after brexit, and don’t want to vote for an ethnic minority for prime minister. It’s disgusting.

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      Except apart from the proud ex BNP the motives for voting Reform seem to come from a scared impotent scarcity helplessness. It’s a “all these immigrants taking my stuff and my opportunities and there isn’t enough to go round” - if they’re paid properly and the NHS works the far right is less appealing. 🤞

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          Historically, people turn to the far right when things are going terribly wrong. The conservatives ran the country into the ground and legitimised everything the far right stood for, then were upset that people started voting far right. I say it was unsurprising. Why not vote Reform if you’re a rabid racist and your usual party are about the same policywise but have a boring British Asian leader instead of a white laddish thug of a politician?

          If things get significantly better for folks, there’s less motivation to vote in desperation.

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      But would he win more electorates by pandering to the further right, or by giving the middle a reason to be enthusiastic about them?

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        https://www.bbc.com/news/election/2024/uk/results

        Conservative

        total votes 6,814,650

        Reform UK

        total votes 4,102,109

        share change +12.3

        Liberal Democrat

        total votes 3,499,969

        share change +0.6

        Cons lost their votes to the nazis more often than the Lib Dems.

        I left britain years ago when brexit happened, that country is stupid, and I wish the people that still live there the best of luck.

        I also would like to remind them that I wasted much air trying to convince them that voting LD wasn’t a waste of time, but for some reason, 4 million of them can be convinced to vote for a third party, but only if it’s racist enough, and not civil liberties oriented enough.

        Starmer didn’t win this election, the tories lost it due to a split vote.

        Labour

        total votes 9,686,329

        share 33.7%

        share change +1.6

        This doesn’t look like the extremely winning party that run an extremely successful campaign. It looks like a bunch of chancers that got lucky flipping seats due to split voter base of nazis.

        I’m not even optimistic that center left starmer is going to do anything all that impressive to be honest. I hope I’m wrong, I think Biden is doing great and getting no credit. Best of luck to him and to Britain, I hope things get better in that country.