• jj4211@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I think as candidates Clinton, W. Bush, Gore, Obama, McCain had sincere support overshadowing the need to stop some particular bad person instead. As misguided as I think it is, Trump voters also are all about Trump less than stopping Biden. I can’t personally remember a race where “the other side must be stopped” as pretty much the sole consideration among the voters until the Trump era.

      Yes, third party candidates are dismissed in a self fulfilling prophecy, but also that reality drives most reasonable would-be third party candidates to one of the viable parties, generally leaving third party candidates that wouldn’t be that popular anyway.

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        6 months ago

        I think as candidates Clinton, W. Bush, Gore, Obama, McCain had sincere support

        Joe Biden was better and more progressive than literally every one of those guys. It’s not Biden’s fault that you haven’t been paying much attention.

        I can’t personally remember a race where “the other side must be stopped” as pretty much the sole consideration among the voters until the Trump era.

        I can’t personally remember a president who has achieved more progress than Joe Biden, and I can remember every president starting with Nixon.