• GraniteM@lemmy.world
    2·
    4 months ago

    Proverbs 28:27

    Those who give to the poor will lack nothing, but those who close their eyes to them receive many curses.

    versus

    Matthew 6:6

    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

    But they can’t be expected to actually pay attention to their own scripture.

    • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      4 months ago

      While I do think it’s fairly obvious that many (if not most) Christians have lost the plot, I don’t think that it’s Christianity’s fault per se. The philosophy expounded in the Gospels is pretty sound, the problem is that few people actually follow it. Almost everyone everyone out there compromises themselves in some way in order to survive, and to that extent, their faith is worthless.

      • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
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        4 months ago

        Meh, it’s a religion commissioned by a Roman emperor.

        The new testament is explicitly pro-slavery, anti-woman, and homophobic.

        There’s a whole lot of bathwater, not a lot of baby.

        • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          4 months ago

          Well, secular society has been anti-slavery and pro-woman for at least a hundred years now, and pro-LGBT for at least 20. Would you say things seem to be improving? Because it appears to me that they’re getting worse.

          • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            4 months ago

            And who is delivering the votes to empower the forces of regression on those issues? Do they have tax free clubhouses that they hang out in on Sundays perhaps?

            • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayEnglish
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              4 months ago

              If you define your values to be in exact opposition to the church, do you not still have a God, except it is what the church calls Satan?

                • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayEnglish
                  01·
                  4 months ago

                  Not necessarily. You could have similar values as the church and just derive them from a different source (although I would argue that this source is then by definition your God and you’re not really an atheist), or you could have no values at all.

                  But if atheism means you care about all the things the church condemns, then your God is simply the antithesis of their God, which also means you aren’t really as much of an atheist as you think you are, but rather an anti-theist.

  • tipicaldik@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    you wanna make more christians? Then feed all those poor kids and tell them it’s literally by the grace of jesus that they’re being fed. The prayer they want in schools will naturally follow. It isn’t just men who’s hearts can be reached via their stomachs…