Case in point: all the college protests. All the arrests happening are from people being encouraged on TikTok to become aggressive and angry towards apartheid. But the question is how the fuck is protesting at a college going to change what a government in another country is going to do in any way? The Israeli government gives little to no fuck about kids opinions protesting at a college campus in the United States. It’s likely civil unrest being spread by TikTok.
Wait, are you trying to frame “people protesting their government committing genocide” as them violating “their obligation to not freely offer yourself up as an attack vector.”
You’re literally just trying to say that citizens shouldn’t allow themselves to be exposed to views counter to government line.
Why not also protest at, I don’t know, the White House or Congress? The people who make policy work there, a college faculty can’t do shit to affect Israeli strategic policy.
The US government provides weapons for the genocide.
One of the main campuses in the protests is opening a campus in Israel, which students are opposing until Israel ends genocide and apartheid.
Many of the campuses donate money to or have partnerships with candidates and organizations that are also complicit in the genocide.
Of course Israel isn’t going to stop genocide because a bunch of college students in the US don’t like it. But that doesn’t mean students have to sit idly as their tuition dollars go to fund genocide.
Ok. I’m not going to argue basic facts with a genocide denying fascist who thinks media should be suppressed if it “increases civil unrest” (aka, shows the truth.)
See, this is why it’s not worth arguing with fascists like you. You’re clearly just trolling; you aren’t even bothering to keep your basic positions consistent (see you up and down the thread saying things like “These protests do nothing and only increase civil unrest.” and yet you’re know trying to claim that you’re actually part of the protests and actually Tiktok is trying to ‘legitimize’ them)
Funded by Amerikan money. The government you uplift, and everyone who still supports them after eight months of unmitigated genocide, is complicit. Is a collaborator.
Seeing someone posting sense and reason. From the heart of a disingenuous, hyperbolic propaganda storm is rare and appreciated.
Asserting that Biden is committing genocide. Really downplays and belittles what genocide actually is. It’s a despicable thing to do. And everyone involved should be ashamed.
Biden can still be wrong, and also not committing genocide. And he is. His reluctance to distance himself from Bibi the Butcher. Has absolutely left him enabling it. Even as he tries in vain to reach out diplomatically to stop the slaughter. We’re long beyond the point of diplomacy. And Biden must start acting like it.
They have very simple demands, they’re not giving some pie in the sky stuff like “have Joe Biden tried for war crimes and abolish capitalism” or something; the protests all have demands along the lines that their university boycott Israeli companies and cut ties with weapons manufacturers aiding the genocide. To claim otherwise is completely infantalising to the protestors who are risking their university positions and physical health to protest despite the police crackdowns.
I’m not sure it’s true that the Israeli government doesn’t care about American public opinion, since they do benefit from American military support, but let’s assume what you said is true.
Even if Americans protesting won’t stop the genocide, won’t end apartheid, I’d prefer that those atrocities are not committed with my tax dollars, with support from my government, in my name. The lesson learned from 9/11 shouldn’t have been “we need to enact regime change anywhere in the world where American interest are opposed”. It should have been “Americans better make sure they are OK with the things that their government is doing abroad”.
I’m not OK with it, I’m not willing to risk dying in a terrorist attack so that Gaza can be levelled with “made in America” munitions. I’m not willing to risk dying in a terrorist attack so that oil companies and other big business interests have friendly regimes to collude with in the region as they scam the people out of their resources and freedoms.
If they don’t care then why did satanyahu come out in a speech against it? Protesting does work and does matter. You only need to look at history to see that
Case in point: all the college protests. All the arrests happening are from people being encouraged on TikTok to become aggressive and angry towards apartheid. But the question is how the fuck is protesting at a college going to change what a government in another country is going to do in any way? The Israeli government gives little to no fuck about kids opinions protesting at a college campus in the United States. It’s likely civil unrest being spread by TikTok.
Wait, are you trying to frame “people protesting their government committing genocide” as them violating “their obligation to not freely offer yourself up as an attack vector.”
You’re literally just trying to say that citizens shouldn’t allow themselves to be exposed to views counter to government line.
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Israel is dropping US bombs. 🙄
How is protesting at a college going to stop it?
The colleges have relationships with the companies that make the bombs and have direct investments in Israel.
Why not also protest at, I don’t know, the White House or Congress? The people who make policy work there, a college faculty can’t do shit to affect Israeli strategic policy.
Then why are you part of the college protests?
I went to the one at USC and wanted to show support.
The US government provides weapons for the genocide.
One of the main campuses in the protests is opening a campus in Israel, which students are opposing until Israel ends genocide and apartheid.
Many of the campuses donate money to or have partnerships with candidates and organizations that are also complicit in the genocide.
Of course Israel isn’t going to stop genocide because a bunch of college students in the US don’t like it. But that doesn’t mean students have to sit idly as their tuition dollars go to fund genocide.
Ok. I’m not going to argue basic facts with a genocide denying fascist who thinks media should be suppressed if it “increases civil unrest” (aka, shows the truth.)
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The cops start mass arrests regardless of aggression.
See, this is why it’s not worth arguing with fascists like you. You’re clearly just trolling; you aren’t even bothering to keep your basic positions consistent (see you up and down the thread saying things like “These protests do nothing and only increase civil unrest.” and yet you’re know trying to claim that you’re actually part of the protests and actually Tiktok is trying to ‘legitimize’ them)
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K. No one asked
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Funded by Amerikan money. The government you uplift, and everyone who still supports them after eight months of unmitigated genocide, is complicit. Is a collaborator.
Seeing someone posting sense and reason. From the heart of a disingenuous, hyperbolic propaganda storm is rare and appreciated.
Asserting that Biden is committing genocide. Really downplays and belittles what genocide actually is. It’s a despicable thing to do. And everyone involved should be ashamed.
Biden can still be wrong, and also not committing genocide. And he is. His reluctance to distance himself from Bibi the Butcher. Has absolutely left him enabling it. Even as he tries in vain to reach out diplomatically to stop the slaughter. We’re long beyond the point of diplomacy. And Biden must start acting like it.
Thank you for being a rational voice.
They have very simple demands, they’re not giving some pie in the sky stuff like “have Joe Biden tried for war crimes and abolish capitalism” or something; the protests all have demands along the lines that their university boycott Israeli companies and cut ties with weapons manufacturers aiding the genocide. To claim otherwise is completely infantalising to the protestors who are risking their university positions and physical health to protest despite the police crackdowns.
Here’s a link to the list of demands of the student protest in new York, for instance
And here’s a picture of the list of the demands of the columbia faculty protest:
I dunno, I absolutely want to see Genocide Joe internationally tried for aiding and abetting a genocide.
THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP THE GENOCIDE BEING PERPETRATED IN THEIR NAME
WTF is wrong with you?
They are a genuine fascist.
College protests have been a thing since Vietnam. Look up Kent State.
It wasn’t China that gave them the idea, it was history.
And it’s working. More and more people are sympathizing with Palestine the more the government overreacts to peaceful protests.
I’m not sure it’s true that the Israeli government doesn’t care about American public opinion, since they do benefit from American military support, but let’s assume what you said is true.
Even if Americans protesting won’t stop the genocide, won’t end apartheid, I’d prefer that those atrocities are not committed with my tax dollars, with support from my government, in my name. The lesson learned from 9/11 shouldn’t have been “we need to enact regime change anywhere in the world where American interest are opposed”. It should have been “Americans better make sure they are OK with the things that their government is doing abroad”.
I’m not OK with it, I’m not willing to risk dying in a terrorist attack so that Gaza can be levelled with “made in America” munitions. I’m not willing to risk dying in a terrorist attack so that oil companies and other big business interests have friendly regimes to collude with in the region as they scam the people out of their resources and freedoms.
If they don’t care then why did satanyahu come out in a speech against it? Protesting does work and does matter. You only need to look at history to see that
Pretty sure people protesting in the US are trying to influence the US govt.
Civil unrest to force the great satan to stop supplying the zionist entity is good and cool actually. In fact, I hope the unrest stops being civil.