Have you browsed Hexbear? This ain’t trolling. It’s very much genuine.
If it is trolling, then it’s just an entire instance posting an inside joke and then pointing and laughing at the people not in-the-know who don’t “get it.”
Hey thank you for your response!
It was indeed bait, because I thought you saw being ND as a negative, from the way you phrases your statement. I am glad to hear it was me that misunderstood you.
I’ve just seen a few too many use it as a way to demean others.
Also: the fact that Hexbear users are making a point to go tone-policing after calling anyone who makes even the slightest criticism against them “racist” and “ableist” should tip y’all off that Hexbear is almost purely a troll instance.
[sarcasm tone indicator, cuz some of y’all need it]
You know what it’s not cute? Discrimination. In this case, your ableism.
We call out the ableism and racism of some users of this instance. That’s the real reason of your “obnoxious” feeling, regarding the Hexbear users. Our zero tolerance to hate.
“America bad looool I just debunked imperialist propoganda”
Is just about the highest IQ take I’ve seen out of hexbear. Ya’ll got that cult-like disconnection from reality.
Also when there was a user in unixporn yesterday asking what words will replace “ricing” now that it’s entered social consciousness that the term has a racially based origin, a hexbear jumped in to say it’s now going to be called “crackering”.
Wow, dunked on that racism so hard.
It was so racist of that user to better themselves and replace a racial work with a non-racial word. Good thing we have hexbear to help out.
Having had a disagreement with you in another thread and seen you mischaracterize it as “supporting the rape of innocent women and children” to someone else, I’m fairly confident that if anyone has a cult-like disconnection from reality, it’s likely you.
If someone tells me it’s bad to be anti-racism, or that systemic racism isn’t real, I’m of course going to say they support racism.
Your position was that it’s bad to help Ukrainians defend their families from being raped because it damages worker solidarity. Yeah, you’re not going around raping anyone yourself, you simply supporting the system in which it occurs.
And I don’t think supporting the system of rape is intentional on your part either. I think you’re anti-America (which is good) to the point that you’ll be apologetic towards rape (which is bad), as long as it means you keep being anti-America.
Your position was that it’s bad to help Ukrainians defend their families from being raped because it damages worker solidarity
No, actually I was articulating someone else’s perspective, which was that advocating for greater conflict as retribution for rape is misguided, and I think it’s a reasonable perspective and not, as you and others were suggesting, evidence of faux leftism.
But good-faith representations of perspectives you disagree with doesn’t seem to be one of your strengths.
I’ve talked to too many covert Nazis who will say, “Oh, I don’t believe that Jews secretly control the world, I’m just here to tell you that some people believe it, and here’s the evidence they use.”
Don’t argue someone else’s position. If you want to talk about disingenuous, that is disingenuous.
State your own position on the rape of civilians and minors in Ukraine.
I’m personally enraged and disgusted by Russia’s invasion and brutalizing of the Ukrainian people, and I’d be happy if this war ended with the death of Putin and his allies.
But Im not naive enough to believe that’s a likely outcome. I think it’s far more likely that this war will impoverish Ukraine for the next half-century and create a generation of orphans and refugees that will never know the country that existed before this war.
I think its ethically abhorrent to cheer on its continuation, and even more, I think it’s childish and absurd to think continued US involvement in it would lead to anything beneficial for the Ukrainian people.
And I think the people who are blinded by their rage are the least qualified to cast judgement on what should be legitimate leftist geopolitical policy. The same people who are play-acting outrage against leftists being too openly violent are the ones seemingly giddy to see Ukraine being tossed near limitless weapons to add to the already half-million dead, over a conflict almost certainly created by US involvement to begin with and which is unlikely to end at all well for Ukraine. You’re advocating for the sacrifice of Ukraine for the chance to destroy Russia, and I find that more heartless and disgusting than anything anyone on Hexbear has said so far.
I won’t call debunking imperialist propaganda from the west, and dunking on racist and ableist users, “obnoxious”.
Anyways,
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Mate. That’s not the obnoxious part. Posts like this are the obnoxious part.
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Hey, Hexbear users? Can y’all send in a better representative to do damage control?
I really want to like y’all, but damn.
Still no opinion on your fellow ableist and racist users?
I challenge you to find one of those in our instance.
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I had no opinion on hexbear coming into this thread. Now I’d be absolutely fine with hexbear being defederated.
Holy shit are y’all just the most annoying group of self righteous sea lions.
What is it you hate about Hexbear specifically?
Probably shit like this.
Me asking you a question is what you hate?
You cant be serious
LMAO, that was actually funny.
The people.
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Loud and clear, a damage specialist will be with you shortly to inflict more damage
god sure do love that you can clutter the comments with this garbage. i really wonder why people wanna get you losers out of their communities…
dude’s trolling. There’s no way tankies use that image, that is one of the most cringe things i’ve ever seen in my life
Have you browsed Hexbear? This ain’t trolling. It’s very much genuine.
If it is trolling, then it’s just an entire instance posting an inside joke and then pointing and laughing at the people not in-the-know who don’t “get it.”
It’s not clever.
Not liking ablism and racism is an in-joke?
This is why ya’ll can get fucked, I’m tired of seeing this garbage in my feed.
Yeah, mate. That’s the in-joke I’m referring to. [sarcasm tone indicator, cuz some of y’all need it]
A reasonable person can infer that’s not where my issues stem from.
All this tells me is that Hexbear folks get their jollies from trying to provoke people with weird stretches.
“You don’t like some of our users?? Wow, you’re pro-rascism and ablelist!”
It’s not cute.
You present needing tone indicators as a negative. Why is that?
I understand that this is bait and definitely not good-faith, but I’ll bite anyway.
Because I know that a lot of Lemmy users are ND, and, being ND myself, I wanted to emphasize the need for my tone to be understood by everyone.
Didn’t realize it could even be viewed as a “negative” until you said something.
Hey thank you for your response!
It was indeed bait, because I thought you saw being ND as a negative, from the way you phrases your statement. I am glad to hear it was me that misunderstood you.
I’ve just seen a few too many use it as a way to demean others.
Also: the fact that Hexbear users are making a point to go tone-policing after calling anyone who makes even the slightest criticism against them “racist” and “ableist” should tip y’all off that Hexbear is almost purely a troll instance.
Yeah! Fuck people who need tone indicators, we shouldn’t be inclusive to those people
You know what it’s not cute? Discrimination. In this case, your ableism.
We call out the ableism and racism of some users of this instance. That’s the real reason of your “obnoxious” feeling, regarding the Hexbear users. Our zero tolerance to hate.
Scrath a liberal, and a fascist/racist bleeds.
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I think it’s authoritarian when libs ignore their government couping and bombing other countries
I remember during the attempted coup in Venezuela even John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, and AOC supported it
Lol what an absolute clusterfuck.
“America bad looool I just debunked imperialist propoganda”
Is just about the highest IQ take I’ve seen out of hexbear. Ya’ll got that cult-like disconnection from reality.
Also when there was a user in unixporn yesterday asking what words will replace “ricing” now that it’s entered social consciousness that the term has a racially based origin, a hexbear jumped in to say it’s now going to be called “crackering”.
Wow, dunked on that racism so hard.
It was so racist of that user to better themselves and replace a racial work with a non-racial word. Good thing we have hexbear to help out.
Having had a disagreement with you in another thread and seen you mischaracterize it as “supporting the rape of innocent women and children” to someone else, I’m fairly confident that if anyone has a cult-like disconnection from reality, it’s likely you.
If someone tells me it’s bad to be anti-racism, or that systemic racism isn’t real, I’m of course going to say they support racism.
Your position was that it’s bad to help Ukrainians defend their families from being raped because it damages worker solidarity. Yeah, you’re not going around raping anyone yourself, you simply supporting the system in which it occurs.
And I don’t think supporting the system of rape is intentional on your part either. I think you’re anti-America (which is good) to the point that you’ll be apologetic towards rape (which is bad), as long as it means you keep being anti-America.
No, actually I was articulating someone else’s perspective, which was that advocating for greater conflict as retribution for rape is misguided, and I think it’s a reasonable perspective and not, as you and others were suggesting, evidence of faux leftism.
But good-faith representations of perspectives you disagree with doesn’t seem to be one of your strengths.
Someone else as in a real person?
Or a hypothetical person you made up in your head?
Does knowing who’s perspective it is really change your opinion of it? Or are you asking so you know who you can accuse of being a Russian apologist?
If it stands up to your scrutiny then I wouldn’t think it matters.
I’ve talked to too many covert Nazis who will say, “Oh, I don’t believe that Jews secretly control the world, I’m just here to tell you that some people believe it, and here’s the evidence they use.”
Don’t argue someone else’s position. If you want to talk about disingenuous, that is disingenuous.
State your own position on the rape of civilians and minors in Ukraine.
I’m personally enraged and disgusted by Russia’s invasion and brutalizing of the Ukrainian people, and I’d be happy if this war ended with the death of Putin and his allies.
But Im not naive enough to believe that’s a likely outcome. I think it’s far more likely that this war will impoverish Ukraine for the next half-century and create a generation of orphans and refugees that will never know the country that existed before this war.
I think its ethically abhorrent to cheer on its continuation, and even more, I think it’s childish and absurd to think continued US involvement in it would lead to anything beneficial for the Ukrainian people.
And I think the people who are blinded by their rage are the least qualified to cast judgement on what should be legitimate leftist geopolitical policy. The same people who are play-acting outrage against leftists being too openly violent are the ones seemingly giddy to see Ukraine being tossed near limitless weapons to add to the already half-million dead, over a conflict almost certainly created by US involvement to begin with and which is unlikely to end at all well for Ukraine. You’re advocating for the sacrifice of Ukraine for the chance to destroy Russia, and I find that more heartless and disgusting than anything anyone on Hexbear has said so far.