Server indexes of places for newcomers to join can be instrumental for Fediverse adoption. However, sudden rule changes can leave some admins feeling pressure to change policies in order to remain listed.

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    8 months ago

    No way! Little dictators exercising the power they have. But it is their platform, they can do what they want right?

    This is probably the biggest threat to the fediverse.

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            8 months ago

            Bullying instance admins into aligning with your values is absolutely the type of behavior that will ruin this protocol.

            Meta is evil and Threads is lame. And I can block them on my own, thank you.

            • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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              8 months ago

              “Not linking to you on my personal website is bullying”

              Give it a fucking break precious.

              Co-ordinated action is needed to fight back against billion dollar companies, not leaving it up to individuals.

              • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org
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                8 months ago

                Do you also urge your e-mail provider to block e-mails from Meta for all users?

                • awesomesauce309@midwest.social
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                  8 months ago

                  I would urge the email protocol makers to stop the rampant corporate tracking. Basically every email sender gets your location, ip, and other info when you open it.

                  I’d bet facebook has a team of marketers working tirelessly to grow their fedi market share so that less informed people think of the fediverse as just a part of threads. They started their own free ISP and half the people that used it ended up thinking Facebook dot com was all there is to the internet. They’ve decided to ruin the fediverse next because by federating, they can see a ton of info about you/your account by default.

                  I think the FTC should do its fucking job, but until then people should stop these huge companies from getting exactly what they want as much as possible. I see no benefit, but a major threat from a company that spies and creates hordes of ill informed users. Literally they are in the news right now for man in the middling Snapchat data. You think they won’t/haven’t started that kind of thing for fedi? They can’t train their LLMs off Snapchat half as easy as they can here.

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      8 months ago

      They are not threatening the fediverst though are they? Just refusing to promote certain instances for newcomers. When I signed up, i wasn’t really sure what I was signing up to but i did assume that not all instances were listed on that page that talked about them

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        8 months ago

        Little dictators that have too much prominence and visibility are the threats. If a specific start point gets too prominent a lot of users could be redirected from good instances because of the little tyrants that run such a jump on point. Granted it can be easily routes around by offering alternative entry points, but a certain amount of prominence will impact not so Tech savvy users.

        And in your assumption you have shown you already understand the fediverse more than a lot of people ever will. They will just join an instance and browse /ALL.

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      The above is the core strength of the fediverse. Tinpot despots may have an advantage in the network due to previous efforts, but they can be routed around any time they go nuts.

      This is a huge, huge win over the top down shitbergs that is current corporate social media.

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        8 months ago

        I think this is true, but the fediverse (as an entity) needs to prevent too much power accumulating at one point.

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          8 months ago

          It ebbs and flows. Full decentralization would be ideal, but unrealistic. Power always consolidates, until it suddenly doesnt. Making it easy to leave when it “suddenly doesnt” is key.

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      8 months ago

      I am not in favor of transitive property defederation either but Meta will make similar demands if they are allowed to be an influencer in the fedi as well. I’d rather that everyone just decides to defederate threads independently