• lugal@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Keep in mind that before that, people worked much less in winter and still less than today in summer

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      8 months ago

      Admittedly, they were completely at the mercy of disease, herd migration, had no plumbing, buried astounding numbers of their children, were not the apex predator, didn’t have mattresses and when injuries happened they often healed poorly and painfully.

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        8 months ago

        And if I worked less hours in my office job, all that would return?

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          8 months ago

          Your office job is incompatible with the pre-agrarian lifestyle you described earlier.

          You don’t get modern luxuries AND the minimal hours required as a hunter gatherer, just as I can’t get the speed of my car AND the cardiovascular benefits of my bike simultaneously.

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            8 months ago

            He’s not talking about “pre-agrarian;” even medieval peasants got more time off than we do today.

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              8 months ago

              Yeah I don’t think so …

              We can both acknowledge progress and an extreme lack of what that progress should/could have been.

              All you have to do is look to countries like China and even Japan where people literally work themselves to death.

              Should we be working 40 hours a week? No but let’s not pretend that the situation has only gotten worse…

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            8 months ago

            You’re a crab in a bucket and so wrong.

            If you need to work to afford to live, you’re being lied to about what’s possible for a healthy and functioning modern society to thrive.

            Don’t forget that in order for capitalism to stay alive, it requires poverty, manufactured scarcity and obsolescence.

            You should question why billionaires even exist in what you consider to be a just and modern society. You should also look up a visual representation of just how much larger 1 billion is from whatever your gross annual income is if you still think it’s reasonable that they do exist.

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              8 months ago

              The person you’re responding to gave no reason to think this mountain of accusations