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    8 months ago

    There’s plenty of videos of the AIPAC lobby bribing American politicians. As for the rest, even folks like Kissinger said that israel just exists to protect israel. Not American interests in the middle east.

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      8 months ago

      Have you ever heard of the word “oil”?

      They’re the most friendly nation in that area to us, even more so than the oil producing countries, and we rely on them for security for access to that oil.

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        8 months ago

        Not at all. Saudi and Egypt are already American dogs. If anything israel turns their population against the ruling class.

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          They’re the most friendly nation in that area to us, even more so than the oil producing countries, and we rely on them for security for access to that oil.

          Saudi and Egypt are already American dogs.

          There’s a huge difference, security wise, between Israel, and Saudi Arabia / Egypt.

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            8 months ago

            Do you know how many American bases are in Saudi Arabia? It’s a lot more than you’d expect.

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              Do you know how many American bases are in Saudi Arabia?

              I do. It’s not a matter of quantity of bases. It’s a matter of a friendship relationship, versus just a working relationship, and the amount of access and cooperation that each gives.

              Are you aware of how much work and cooperation the CIA and the Mossad do together, and the access to the region through Israeli that the CIA has, to maintain access to oil rich fields in the region? No, you don’t, and neither do I, which is my point.

              You’re not going to hand wave away Israeli infrastructure cooperation with the US.

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                8 months ago

                America just as well controls the Egyptian secret service.

                In the past israel might have been an asset. Now they are a liability.

                The only real reason America still supports them is because they have bought all of congress. The other “benefits” do not outweigh the costs.