The US will begin air dropping food aid to the people of Gaza, President Joe Biden announced on Friday, as the humanitarian crisis deepens and Israel continues to resist opening additional land crossings to allow more assistance into the war-torn strip.

Speaking in the Oval Office, Biden said the US would be “pulling out every stop” to get additional aid into Gaza, which has been under heavy bombardment by Israel since the October 7 Hamas terror attacks.

“Aid flowing to Gaza is nowhere nearly enough,” the US President said, noting “hundreds of trucks” should be entering the enclave.

Biden said the US is “going to insist that Israel facilitate more trucks and more routes to get more and more people the help they need, no excuses”.

He also noted the efforts to broker a deal to free the hostages and secure an “immediate ceasefire” that would allow additional aid in.

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    If only the president of the united states had power to do something about this!!!

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      Plenty of countries would have been capable of forcing themselves into the situation, if only they weren’t legitimately afraid of Israel retaliating and the US backing them in their retaliation.

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    Everyone’s in here giving Biden shit like not voting for him and letting Trump win will make things better for anyone.

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      You know that you can vote for someone AND be critical of their future, past and/or present decisions right?

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        You’re right, but there are a lot of people (that I’ve seen, at least) who are willing to abstain from voting over Biden’s handling of this.

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          Then that is their democratic choice. And it’s Bidens loss for not listening to his voters.

          Don’t blame the voters for using their votes

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            We’re not. We’re blaming them for being fucking idiots who will vote in a literal dictator because they’re mad at Biden. Someone who will do far more damage to and destroy hundreds of millions of lives in the US and the rest of the world.

            30,000 deaths in another country is nothing compared to US deaths little orange is responsible for when you only consider his one choice to fuck over pandemic response at the beginning of the pandemic. Dude has the deaths of millions on his hands already.

            Anyone, any human being alive, that would vote for him is a fucking idiot that needs to give their head a bashing

            I love that you used the phrase democratic choice to describe it too. A+

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              America’s path to fascism doesn’t begin and end with Trump. Forcing people to vote for someone they do not morally support is fascist. The last time he was president the world didn’t end. Millions of peoples lives in the United States are already horrible and the US regardless of who is president , democrat or republican, murder people all over the world. This narrow minded take of how the world works is part of the problem not the people abstaining from voting for Biden.

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                  And children without a lot of life experiences to understand. Imagine coming of age in the last decade. This is their “normal”. Its awful and terrifying… exactly what all the people working to divide and and destroy democracy around the world have been working for.

                  As much as I’m angry at their ignorance, it’s also really fucking sad.

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                No. It is not, this is a scary and extremist perspective and I’m sorry you feel like that. The media in America and the propagandist dismantling democracy have done so much damage.

                So many bots, so many promoters of disjunction. It’s overwhelming.

                You’re being asked to make a choice between eating a gross vegetable and a the barrel of a shotgun and you’re arguing for the shotgun.

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              First you say “were not” and then in the next sentence you say “we do”. Good one.

              Best part about a democracy is that everyone gets to vote.

              Worst part is that everyone gets to vote.

              This is how it works. Just because you’re afraid of being on the losing side doesn’t mean anything has changed.

              And before you start yapping on. I’m not American. We don’t work on a 2 party system. I’m just saying what everyone else can see looking in.

              You can’t support democracy ONLY when your side gets what they want.

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            People who are able to vote and specifically choose not to should absolutely be blamed. Voting third party is perfectly reasonable, but you have no right to complain about the state of politics and deserve to be ridiculed if you make the conscious decision not to vote even though you are fully able to.

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            It’s the unalienable right of every US citizen to say whatever dumbass shit they want. I’m still gonna call them a dumbass for saying dumbass shit though.

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          I’m not abstaining. I’m voting for Jill Stein.

          Jill’s currently polling at 5%. If the Green Party could get 5%, we’d qualify for millions of dollars in federal grant money, which would go a long way towards helping us fight the corrupt two-party system.

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          It’s the trolley problem. It is much more difficult for people to be an active part of genocide by voting for Biden than simply not voting and allowing a worse outcome to happen if Trump becomes president…

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        Exactly, I demand better of him and I will probably vote for him. I really wonder though how someone that’s a Muslim or Palestinian can stomach voting for him. His policies around Israel are pretty much identical to what Trump would do which is a big deal for a lot of people. He’s basically saying “Forget that I let Israel murder and starve to death your loved ones, I’ve been pretty good when it comes to monopolies right?!?”.

        I’ll vote for him because he’s the better of two options, however, he has blood on his hands and that may just lose him a second term.

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        There’s a time and place to be critical of dumbass politicians taking half-measures on important issues, but doing it now is potentially undermining the election in favor of fascist criminals.

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            honestly doesn’t it seem like this change of direction is him listening? Even weeks ago I would have never thought I would have heard the words ceasefire out of his mouth.

            to me this seems like a direct response of the message people sent to him with the Michigan primary and I am happy to see it.

            doesn’t mean I’m happy with what he’s done so far or even that he has not immediately taken direct action but this is a pivot and failing to acknowledge it weakens protest actions like this in the future.

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              If you read the article, he still wants the hostages released as a pre condition to any ceasefire. His position there hasn’t actually changed.

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                maybe I am missing something that I don’t see why that is an objectionable position? like obviously the ceasefire needs to happen immediately but what is wrong with hostage release as part of it?

                not that long ago politicians were doing anything they could to avoid the word ceasefire and now they’re actively calling for it I’m really not thinking that this is an unchanged position but I am willing to listen if I have some drastic misunderstanding.

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                  Because the hostages aren’t why we need the ceasefire. We need it to deliver aid. Also it’s an Israeli pre-condition. So what the white house is doing is putting the one big thing Israel wants and telling Hamas they’ll get a temporary peace out of it. Hamas has no reason to take that deal. Israel would similarly tell the white house to pound sand if they showed up in Tel Aviv to say Hamas has a deal that just requires the removal of all IDF troops from Palestinian territory.

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                I mean, wouldn’t it be a good thing if hostages were released? Also, surely getting a ceasefire like this is one of the reasons Hamas took hostages, right?

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                  In a vacuum, yes. But we aren’t in a vacuum and Hamas needs something more than a shaky ceasefire to release all of the hostages. Israel isn’t agreeing to a ceasefire unless every hostage is released. At that point Hamas loses all leverage.

                  It’s also an incredibly partisan move by a mediator who says their main concern is getting aid into the area. You need cooperation for that and you don’t get cooperation by backing the demands of just one side.

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            Yeah, this keeping voters accountable to politicians nonsense needs to end. Make it the other way around or GTFO.

            Trump is a really dark post-political blank slate for maniacs to project their frustrated base instincts and worst fantasies on. That’s not a unique thing, seemingly all European democracies have some populist equivalent. Those laying claim to leadership over opposing these forces need to do fucking better.

            At this point it’s a hard chicken and the egg proposition to say what came first:

            – the frustrations of large swaths of populations through centrist politics sucking up to a nimbyist “middle class” that always favor tax breaks and benefits for car driving homeowners over public investments in anything/anyone else or

            – the calls for those frustrated to either vote centrist or have fascism imposed on them.

            I’m not American and do in fact think it is important that Biden wins (if even just to avoid destabilizing the world’s largest military power in a time of global tensions). And as such I have no other choice but to encourage Americans to vote for him, regardless of conviction. But it’s galling to hear or read – whether in the context of the Biden, Macron or any similar choice between a turd sandwich or fascism – that people should shut up and be happy and enthused about it.

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              I’m not happy about it, but it’s the reality of the situation. We’re sliding towards fascism as our rights are being eroded away. The government ignores our protests and no one will take up arms against the ruling class. This is how it is.

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                For sure! Where I live the last election was between a neo-liberal coalition or a neo-liberal coalition fueled by fascism. Both options were a vote for an erosion of civil liberties, under the banner of combating a mix of real gang violence and made up evils of evil, but one of the factions also offered the catharsis of blaming everything wrong on immigrants. Not that the not non-fascist faction has been slow to underwrite the fascist narrative, whenever that’s appeared beneficial to public support. The “lesser evil” lost the election, and at no point have they stopped to consider that the “evil” part of their strategy was a part of it, they think it was a failure in selling themselves as superior administrators of the same policies the current government is championing.

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            It sounds like he’s starting to. He’s gone from full-throated support to silent complicity to actually calling Israel out. I hope he can do more.

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      And they are never satisfied.

      “Biden must demand an immediate ceasefire!”

      Biden: I demand an immediate ceasefire!

      “Biden isn’t doing enough!”

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        Ok, read what actually was said then come back.

        The headline is misleading. Biden simply said “I hope a ceasefire happens one day”. Which is a FAR cry from “demanding a ceasefire now”. He isn’t doing enough because he hasn’t been saying things like “We are planning on withdrawing aid from Israel if they keep up this offensive”. Instead it’s “Well golly gee I hope Hamas returns all the hostages for a 2 week ceasefire and no troop withdrawals by Israel.”

        But hey, at least he’s decided that he can say the word “ceasefire” Up until maybe a couple of weeks ago that was a forbidden word by the administration.

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      When Biden ran in 2020, this was the argument I heard from Biden supporters: sure, Biden may not be perfect, but we should support him anyway, and then, once he gets elected, we’ll hold his feet to the fire.

      Yet now, when people try to hold his feet to the fire, they’re accused of supporting Trump. Funny how that works.

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        My argument is: Biden may not be perfect, but he’s a whole hell of a lot better than the guy that tried to start an insurrection and appointed a Supreme Court justice that got rid of Roe v. Wade. Holding his feet to the fire is a waste of time because the house always wins; the People will be the ones to bear the burden of any sort of loss for the Democrats. All I can do is hope that people will finally be pushed too far and revolt against the government, but that will be a whole hell of a lot harder if the 1st and 2nd Amendments are infringed on any more than they already are.

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    It’s in Netanyahu’s interest to drag this out until November and do everything he can to make Biden lose to Trump. After that, all he has to do is mention the chonky fascist’s “big manly hands” and he gets to do all the genocide he wants while continuing to keep his corrupt ass out of jail.

    Biden needs to wake the fuck up.

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    This is such a misleading headline, it’s propaganda. Biden Did not say “Immediate ceasefire, no excuses” Boy I wish he did. Instead he said “Boy I hope we have a cease fire. There’s no excuses for Israel keeping aid from going in”.

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    Congratulations “Uncommitted” voters and other protesters, it looks like you are at least part of making Biden’s “blank check” support of Israel too politically expensive to continue. It will be interesting to see how this plays out as Biden tries to balance actions around an angry electorate vs. pro-Israel factions and money (which non-profit watchdog Open Secrets says he’s the largest recipient of). Especially with the unofficial cease-fire deadline of Ramadan only 10 days away which is expected to be the launch of an Israeli offensive in Rafah barring a temporary cease-fire agreement. I say temporary because Netanyahu is cited in that article as saying, “If we have a deal, it will be delayed somewhat, but it will happen. If we don’t have a deal, we’ll do it anyway”.

    I hope this “no excuses” change in tone will yield meaningful results and most importantly relief for the civilians in Gaza.

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      This is what pisses me off about “moderates”. All they give a damn about is optics and winning the next election. The rest of us understand that the only power we have is our vote, and if we don’t use that power to its full extent, which means threatening to withhold it, we’ll never get any concession from any politician.

      The rest of you are quite literally shills who simply don’t give a shit about what’s happening in Palestine. You just do what you’re told to and act like that makes you a good person. You weren’t even willing to do the bare minimum of using your voice, because you dummy actually care.

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      You must be some Russian/MAGA spam bot!! How dare you encourage them to just hand over the election to trump!

      /s

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        I know you’re making a joke, but it really is a crazy year to be an American voter. I laughed at Bill Burr’s take in December when he said (among other funny things) “I want someone in their 40’s. Someone who is going to have to live with their decisions”. I’m biased though because I’ve enjoyed Bill’s brutal comedy for years.

        Trump would be a disaster in all respects, so I guess that decides things. Biden’s domestic policies don’t feature destroying checks and balances on power and revenge/witch hunts as key features. Democracy is supposed to be rule of the people via elected officials who genuinely represent them, so I’m happy to see the beginnings of a change in tone at least (and I dearly hope policy) from Biden. I’m definitely not cheering for another 2016.

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          Man that audio/video of Bibi saying genocide would continue and they were gonna level Gaza because the American people have given them a blank check and full support …yea …that was everything I expected from that fascist.

          And as fascists (and corporatists; tho any difference is arguable) always do, he said the quiet part out loud, insinusting Israel’s stretched past their compacity while invigorating the anti-genocide (which I would hope is all of us, but clearly isn’t. I don’t see how a moral person rationalizes killing 20000 children) center/left to bolder action against Biden.

          The news getting out of Bibi’s forces beating down the Orthodox in Jerusalem for protesting is indicative of a few things, mainly that dissent at home is greater than his propaganda machine can keep the lid on. His propaganda machine has been busch league, AT BEST. Obviously lying with AI generated photos. Idk about you, but I can’t believe a single thing that comes out of a zionists mouth. If the world didn’t stop their aggression, I think we all know full well they would’ve killed every single Palestinian down to the last.

          Zionist has become as negative a word to me as Nazi. The only difference being pro-jew or anti-jew. I spit at them both.

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              Yes, please give us the video link. B.N. and members of his government have said home very bad things, but I’ve not heard that quote. We would join your sentiment if you could be more factual.

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                Unfortunately it’s been a few days so I’m not sure we’re going to get it. I looked but couldn’t find any quote like this. I suspect this is a distorted version of something he did say but without knowing his exact words I would take the above comment with a large grain of salt.

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      I feel like it was that gunning down incident with the humanitarian aid that ultimately tipped the scales.

      I know I’ve been going on defense for Israel a lot recently, but I am kinda playing messenger boy as a neutral for being both here and some pro-Israel groups. The Michigan vote didn’t really phase them, that incident did. Seen them even sharing more info about how ridiculously strict Bibi is with aid in general.

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        I think the Michigan vote and subsequent media coverage was meaningful, but I agree there’s no denying the shooting had a big impact. Thank you for adding that perspective. My guess is having both happen so close to each other increased the total effect. Regardless, it’s going to be an important 10 days coming up.

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          Realistically it’s probably both in some sort of confluence, the campaign hears the uncommitted vote news and then the massacre happens and they see it as an opportunity to about face without making it look like they are back tracking previous moves. It’s cynical as hell but I think it’s probably likely

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        Nah israel did shootings like that every week. Biden doesn’t care about brown people dying. I’d argue that the hospital massacre israel committed was far worse optically

        Michigan did this. All the people that refused to bend the knee and vote for Biden in December if he continues the Genocide.

        And Aaron Bushnell. His sacrifice was a huge turning point.

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          You’d think that, but humans can be weird with what actually causes introspection.

          The hospital thing they just took the official line for. They actually mocked Aaron, or were actually grateful he took his own life thinking he was a disturbed individual.

          Edit: If you want to understand the logic: they’re willing to turn a blind eye if they can “both sides” incidents so they can simply keep their position of “Israel has a right to defend itself, regardless if they’re not saints about it”.

          The humanitarian aid story is getting them because Bibi won’t even let them do that! Hence why I mentioned the story sharing, since they know Bibi had made it clear he wants to starve Palestinians.

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    Now tell your UN ambassador to reverse the veto in the security council so UN troops can actually do something about this.

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    Cool, cool. Are we still supplying weapons to Israel? Give the weapons to Ukraine and tell Israel that’s enough genocide for now.

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      Didn’t he claim he will airdrop humanitarian aid in Ukraine.

      Damn you guys behind the pond should introduce a law setting the max age a person can hold a presidential position. There is a reason why old people are not given a driver’s license and you should take the cue and do something about it.

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        Oh we let old people drive too, there’s not really any tangible system for ensuring they’re still capable. There’s a way your doctor can have it pulled but healthcare is privatized so they’ll just shop around for the guy who’ll say it’s totally fine if they have to.

        My ex’s mom randomly passed out completely multiple times a day sometimes, it never got pulled - until some innocent pedestrian paid the ultimate price for eagle fuckin American “freedom.”

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        We’re trying but we’re up against hateful shitty old fucks who have a deathgrip on positions of power, absolutely stupid masses who enjoy a steady diet of warped theocratic leadership mixed in with batshit conspiracy, an alarming growing group of outright fascist af young people, and then a rather large contingent of apathetic cunts who can’t be bothered with doing the bare minimum in civic duties. It’s a fucking mess here. Not looking great.

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          I don’t disagree with you but at least along the issue of Gaza, young people are OVERWHELMING on the side of reason and that is heartening even while it is heartbreaking to see it doesn’t fucking move the needle on Biden’s actions even a nanometer.

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            It seems to be moving his actions somewhat. He’s calling for a ceasefire and airdropping aid to Gaza. I feel like a lot of that is due to pressure from constituents.

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              Yeah kinda feels like he is airdropping hotdogs into a baseball stadium though, like, ok those people needed hot dogs but what about the whole hot dog distributing apparatus that is surrounding all those people with multiple concession stands distributed strategically throughout the stadium to minimize congestion and even people walking around who specialize in just distributing hot dogs. Kinda feels like you are beating around the bush buddy when you plan to airdrop hotdogs into the baseball stadium instead of just having all of those people and systems start giving people hotdogs who need them.

              I hope the pressure keeps making him take concrete steps though.

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              Gotta wonder if he’d care if it weren’t election season, though. After his whole four year term he finally got around to wiping my student debt a week ago. I know that was election driven.

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    I know this is way later than I or anyone whose been screaming for ceasefire wished for, but I’m so glad something has changed. I hope this is the just a start.

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    Isn’t funny how they were an arms dealer and NOW, after what feels like total anahilation, do they say enough is enough?

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    Too little, too late. Military intervention or nothing, Israel and Gaza need to be taken in by UN peacekeeping forces and a new dialogue needs to be started about how to find a permanent solution for the coexistence of Palestinians and Israelis. If the need exists, maybe even deconstruct the current Israel to make way for a more tolerant and democratic nation that respects people of all origin.

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      They absolutely need a 2-state solution.

      And neither of the 2 states should be the current states of Israel or Palestine.

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        A 2 state solution is effectively impossible at this point. Israel won’t let their settlements go and the Palestinians will not accept anything less than the 1967 borders. There’s also the split country problem. Bangladesh used to be East Pakistan. Split countries have a bad habit of one part getting exploited pretty hard.

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          So what you’re saying is the problem with the 2-state solution is the 2 existing states that I specifically said shouldn’t be part of the solution?

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            You can’t just do a rebrand. These are thousand year old ethic identities. There has to be a structural change as well.

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        Ding ding ding!

        They started seeing everyone posting on social media that they’re not voting to support us paying for a genocide.

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          Vote “uncommitted” in the primaries, all the centrists shaming progressives for having a red line at “genocide” are so desperately wrong about now being not the time to raise our voices, fuck them.

          The only way to get Biden to care about the horrific mass slaughter of an entire population is to directly make him afraid he won’t get his power trip again if he doesn’t capitulate because it is blindly obvious nothing else will sway him until it’s farrrrrrrrr too late.

          After the election is the worst time to do it, if Biden wins he will just completely ignore progressive/almost unanimous international outcry over Israel’s genocide and continue handwringing because why would he do otherwise given his ideology and the fact that he doesn’t need the votes anymore?

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      Doubt UN troops would help here. They’d either get swayed like UNRWA was or would get the same treatment as Israelis.

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        Our own intelligence agencies rated that as “low confidence”. Which is the Intel version of pressing F to doubt. It means they found nothing to support the allegations. Typically it’s followed by the briefer saying something like, “we do not recommend action on this item at this time.”

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        What is more plausible according to you:

        • Hamas managed to sway UNRWA and pretty much all of the known humanitarian organisations operating in Gaza?
        • Or that the situation on the ground is really dire and it was like this long before the 7th of October no matter what Israel is claiming.

        And please feel free to send me any article of any non affiliated NGO or humanitarian organisation with Israel praising their efforts to achieve long lasting peace before the 7th of October.

        Because I can easily do the opposite.

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    He’s taking the Michigan numbers seriously. Let’s hope it’s not too little too late.

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    We’re going to pull out EVERY Stop! Like Air Dropping food to Palestine and Bombs also to Palestine!

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    He had to. He should have done it months ago tbh.

    The mowing down of 700 people and killing 100 who were trying to get food and water is the last straw. Bibi is toast now. You’ll see a speech in the Knesset soon calling for his ouster and an end to the veto coverage Israel had in the UN.

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      He could have done this in October.

      Is it too little too late to save his presidential run?

      We’ll see. He has to get the ceasefire first.

      (There was another time Israel bombed and aid convoy (waiting till the aid was in a position to be destroyed), back in October, so its not like the first time they’ve done this even in this conflict.)

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        Honestly if he stops this mess now he should get enough lesser evil votes. Gotta also revert his position on the border and other things, but he still has time to save his campaign.

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          Or he could do what most of the county wants, and give us meaningful change. That’s what has been drawing voters since Obama, that’s why Trump won in the first place - Hillary is the status quo incarnate

          But we’ve been strung along for way too long, he needs to take a stand and make some enemies

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            I mean yeah but if he was going to do that he wouldn’t be Genocide Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden.

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          His actually al strategy right now is just so fucking stupid.

          It’s like he thinks he’s going to appeal to voters by taking in Trump’s policies.

          He’s got no read on the country ATM.

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      Pretty sure the government has been trying to talk Israel down since things got way out of scope in November. But Bibi wants blood.

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        Don’t call him Bibi. He deserves no cute nicknames which downplay these atrocities.

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        What world do you live in lol. They had Bidens support since 1970. Pelosi too. They were completely on board until like yesterday, due to pressure from the voter base.

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        Bibi is now Hitler Lite in my opinion. The number of deaths aren’t quite there or the level of cruelty, but the intent and mindset is exactly the same and he could easily get to that cruelty and deathcount if not stopped.

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          I don’t think there are enough Palestinians on the planet to hit the body count of the holocaust… but that doesn’t mean that Israel’s actions are a lesser evil. Genocide is genocide

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            Yeah which is why they said the scale is different. They’re talking about the mindset because let’s face it, Israel wants to turn Gaza into Lebensraum. They’ve been pretty clear about that.

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          The amount of children being killed in Gaza every day matches that of a big concentration camp at the peak of the Holocaust.

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        Pretty sure the government has been trying to talk Israel down since things got way out of scope in November.

        Wrong, government backed israel and provided them military aid and weapons.

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      He had to. He should have done it months ago tbh.

      The plan was to do it after gaza has been destroyed