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SeaJ@lemm.ee to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Toyota says it would rather buy credits than ‘waste’ money on EVs

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SeaJ@lemm.ee to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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As the car industry’s largest hybrid pusher, Toyota says it is better positioned to just buy credits to close the EPA gap rather than “waste” money on BEVs, its CEO said.
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    Toyota has invested heavily into hydrogen, and so are against electrification

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      Hydrogen would be cleaner in the long run, too, wouldn’t it? Since you wouldn’t need to mine lithium for batteries and such.

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        It wouldn’t. Hydrogen production from any source is extremely power intense. Especially so from water. The amount of energy wasted on hydrogen production is easily offset by battery production and recycling. And that’s not even accounting for hydrogen tank production, which is another hell hole.

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          Not the mention the overwhelming vast majority of hydrogen today is produced from fossil fuels and not through electrolysis.

          Let’s not kid ourselves, anyone advocating for hydrogen as fuel is defending the continued existence of the fossil fuel industry.

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          There are plenty of places with abundant green energy, and abundant water. As for the tank yea, but idk if it’s worse than lithium

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            The energy is only abundant until the moment you start wasting it. Hydrogen fuel is a waste of energy.

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        Yes but where is the hydrogen coming from? Also hydrogen cars are less efficient than battery powered EVs.

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          Water, I think? I think the hydrogen is less of an issue than the hydrogen fuel cell though.

          Only 10 more years to go!

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          Yes but where is the hydrogen coming from?

          Water.

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            Natural gas, primarily.

            Obtaining hydrogen from water is much more energy-demanding, and the efficiency of the entire water cycle (water electrolysis, hydrogen transportation, electrical conversion) is extremely low compared to just charging batteries.

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            “A Japanese-Australian venture producing hydrogen from brown coal”

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        Bullshido

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