• Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    If I had the means to leave I’d already be gone.
    It seriously makes me wonder though, if Trump starts executing minorities and Democratic party members en masse, what are the odds that any country would give asylum to Americans?
    Probably pretty slim

  • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    And this time, they may actually follow through.

    Fucking lol no they won’t.

    Moving abroad is insanely expensive, getting citizenship in another country is insanely difficult, and most people don’t have the skills that other countries would want, nor the resources necessary to make the move. The amount of people who have the resources to do it and the willingness to follow through wouldn’t qualify as so much as a rounding error, let alone enough to get anyone to take notice.

    Regardless of what your opinion is on our immigration laws (legal or otherwise), our laws are basically an open-borders policy when compared to every other country on the planet with similar economic prosperity. People act like you can just pack up and move to Canada or something on a whim over the weekend. Not gonna happen.

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    8 months ago

    I’d love to leave. I desperately want to. But I have no marketable skills (too broke to attend college out of high school, am trying now but still have 2 1/2 years to go, so too long), I’m terrifyingly broke, have a weird-ass employment history from years of undiagnosed mental illness and just recently diagnosed ADHD, and I never learned a second language because shitty education and I don’t pick up languages well from those programs that claim to teach you. If I could go, I’ve have gone already, but nowhere worth going wants me and I get it. I know I’m a loser. I’m stuck on this ship while the cool kids are leaving in the life boats. And yes, I vote, but what does it matter?

    • mPony@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Sorry to hear of your situation. That kinda sucks.
      Vote anyway.

      There are people trying to convince you that your vote doesn’t matter. if it didn’t matter they wouldn’t bother trying to convince you.

  • fireweed@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    The article: “a bunch of us are worried about the potential rise of fascism in the United States, so we’re moving to Italy

    Tell me that you are oblivious to international politics without literally telling me that you are oblivious to international politics.

    More to the point, if Americans were the type to “flee in droves,” left-wingers would have left states like Texas and Florida en-masse for bluer pastures. Moving within the United States is a million times easier than moving overseas, and if they’re not doing the former in the face of fascism/degradation of human rights in red states, why on earth would they engage in the much more difficult latter? Definitely sounds like a case of taking anecdote and non-committal musings online too seriously.

    • nutsack@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      the republicans i know think that people are fleeing blue states to red states because of politics. the reality is that nobody is going anywhere.

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        Ehh. People are moving to places that are cheaper. Look at Texas. Low taxes and cheap real estate compared to any blue state big city.

        Climate comparable to Cali or CO. So if u sold a Cali house Texas is your best bet to replicate that u had or better for less money.

        Those cheap states are cheaper cuz they’re corrupt shitholes.

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          8 months ago

          Uh, no.

          No state income tax, but those morons tax you for home ownership far more than some states. Electricity is more exp, even housing isn’t as cheap as it was 5 years ago. I paid more in property taxes in Texas than I pay here for property and state income on a house worth 3x what I had in Texass.

          And where the hell in Texass are you saying has comparable weather with Colorado? Maybe south Colorado, or close to Kansas. But as a whole, texass weather has no match to anything as nice as Colorado weather.

          Now the, that place is run by a corrupt bunch of fucktards.

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    8 months ago

    “…Americans are planning to flee in droves, and then will realise they don’t have a passport, don’t know any foreign languages, and don’t know how to get around without a car and will ultimately just stay put.”

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      8 months ago

      An example of latent american exceptionalism is that Americans (and articles like this written by them) seem to insinuate that Americans have leave to just enter and live in any country they wish, at any time, and live there for nothing more than booking a flight; that the receiving country will roll out the red carpet upon arrival and wipe their ass with silk, simply because they’re American.

      Immigrating to a desirable country is usually a tedious and long process. Their acceptance of you for a long term visa will depend on many aspects of yourself and what you have to offer, not simply because there is a big splayed eagle on the cover of your passport.

  • YaksDC@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I am at a good point in my life where I could fuck off to Portugal. It is a real consideration.

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      8 months ago

      Down voting because I don’t want anyone to know where I’m headed. Hoping I never have to meet you there, internet friend.

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    8 months ago

    America under Trump is still better than most of the world. Take it from someone born in a 3rd world country.

    And if you have the qualifications and/or skills necessary to migrate to 1st world countries like in Europe… you’re making a good wage here and have little reason to leave here anyways.

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      8 months ago

      What a clueless take on a complex situation! To top it all off your argument is “b-but some countries are worse!!”

      Brilliant!

  • Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    The last thing the rest of the world needs is American right wingers moving over. And if you think Biden is actually good, I’ve got news for you about your political leanings.

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    7 months ago

    the economy tanks b4 the election, for the lower 99%…

    Nearly nobody who wants out will be able to afford to leave.

    House-of-cards is “supposed” to last until after the election, but won’t.