He pressed Pelosi on whether the United States has a red line for Israel and whether they “own” the Gaza operation as much as their ally.

“If you don’t like what Israel is doing, and the president has made it clear that some of what Israel is doing he doesn’t like, and you go on supplying them with hardware to do these things you own this operation every bit as much as they do, don’t you?” Sebastian asked the former House Speaker.

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    Uncompromising pressure is exactly the approach taken by Trump and the GOP against Iran, in contrast to the olive branch offered by Obama. It’s also the approach taken by multiple presidents against Cuba and North Korea.

    It’s not an effective way to get a regime to change its behavior. It doesn’t cast countries out of international society, it simply realigns them with countries like China.

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      Who said anything about uncompromising? Almost all the member states agreed on it save 2. The two with the most to gain from this conflict. Compromise would be to go with the consensus. Really weird to paint a joint UN resolution as ‘uncompromising pressure’ in line with Trump on Iran, he literally assassinated their top military general. What part of that is like a UN resolution with a majority approval?

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        It doesn’t matter what you want to call it. You want to try to isolate Israel, but isolating a country won’t change its behavior. It will change its allies.

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            Sometimes it allows a degree of influence.

            For example, the US has given a lot of funds to Ukraine. But the US does not want Ukrainian troops on Russian soil, and this may be one of the reasons Ukrainians haven’t done so.

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              Well we stopped funding Ukraine, so no wonder they gotta listen to us, clearly their funding isn’t secure. The fact that netanyahu publicly goes against biden is because he knows that’ll never happen to him. You want to influence him, but there’s no incentive for him to listen, he knows no one will stop funding him. Give him incentive to listen, yank his funding his statements make it clear he doesn’t think that’s a possibility.

              No to mention if you suggesting the funding and delaying, the abeding of genocide, is to get influence that we can’t use to stop the genocide well Ill let you figure out how that’s the same thing as complicity. But the type of complicity where you’re also paying for it.