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    Because of “big toilet paper”. They even tried to assassinate a spokesperson for japanes toilets.

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      Holy shit? Do you have a source for that because damn. It’s something I would expect though.

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      I wish I could find it again but this was years ago now that I saw a news story about the rise of women getting UTI’s from bidet usage in Japan specifically.

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    No one understands what a bidet really is.

    In the old days, they were a separate free-standing device. Not a lot of people have space or money to add one of these types of bidets to their bathrooms

    Now they make them as toilet seat attachments that don’t require extra space and really aren’t that expensive.

    But people don’t know. Older people will be like, “Oh a bidet? No I don’t want another toilet like device in my bathroom”

    So that gets rid of all those people.

    Next you have the people that know about the new style bidets that’s just a fancy toilet seat.

    Their biggest deterrent is probably cold water. Spraying cold water on their butt doesn’t appeal to most people.

    You can get bidets that heat the water, but you have to have power behind your toilet, which not everyone has.

    Then you have older people that just can’t work them or don’t feel like they can. Like my grandfather, I installed one with all the bells and whistles for him. Yet hitting a button and doing all that was too complicated. He was 90+ and could barely use a cell phone for basic functions. But he’d rather wipe his butt like he knew than mess with the “complicated” bidet.

    Eventually everyone is going to own a bidet, it really is the way to go.

    We just aren’t there yet.

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      For me it’s because I have had to suffer from UTI’s before and I don’t want to risk some stream of water blowing bacteria into my vagina and then I gotta pee every five seconds and wait for a damn doctor visit because for some fucking reason UTI meds aren’t over the counter where I live.

      I can buy the UTI “pain reliever” over the counter but it just temporarily fixes the pain, and the UTI of course continues. Pretty fucking pointless.

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        Weird, in my current country bidet is in widespread usage and I haven’t known anyone getting a UTI from bidet usage.

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        Well, for starters, you don’t pee from your vagina. You could get a yeast infection, yes, but that’s a different issue.

        That said, if your bidet is angled so it’s hitting your vagina or, especially, your urethra, it’s likely not installed correctly or you’re sitting way far back on your toilet.*

        • There are bidets you can get with the option to angle for washing period blood away, but they tell you in the instructions to wash your butt first so that you don’t get bacteria into your vagina, and you also don’t need to use that function either. I never found it super useful myself, so I’d recommend the cheaper version without that function these days.
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          Well, for starters, you don’t pee from your vagina.

          why are you explaining that to me, a woman with a vagina.

          I’m aware of that.

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            stream of water blowing bacteria into my vagina

            Because that doesn’t cause issues with your urinary tract.

            • A man with a longer urinary tract
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        You could just find one with low pressure. You don’t need a high power jet.

        Simply soaking your crack with water and wiping is a big help.

        I’ve never heard of your problem, though, so it’s an interesting point. I know some bidets even have intended settings to wash your front as a woman.

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          Yeah its just easier for me to get UTI’s so I have to be extra careful. I had a summer where I had 3 UTI’s back to back and it was a nightmare.

          Most women get them from sex and there’s a lot of misinformation out there about women’s health.

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      I have a seat one that only does cold water and it hits different in the summer honestly. Sometimes you just need a splash of cold water in your asshole to keep going.

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      Having used both types, including a water warming seat installed one, I can’t say enough good things about the free standing ones. The toilet seat ones though seem like a waste of time, even if they warm the water.

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      Cold water, yeah in winter in Canada your cold water is something like 1°C (33°F), not a pleasant thing

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          Well you flush and that takes out the water in your pipes. Then you get cold ass water from the pipe outside in the ground.

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        Water doesn’t have to be 0°C (32°F) to freeze.

        Depending on your elevation, it can change.

        If the water in your pipes is even close to 1°C you have a serious problem.

        You can also hook a bidet to your hot water line

        The first bit of water will be wall temperature water and it will take a bit to fully warm up because you have to clear out the lines (some bidets will drain the first bit of water before squirting you)

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    I think the answer is just that most don’t know about them, having grown up in homes without them. They are quite nice though.

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        Maybe, but I’d still go with having no idea such things exist. That was me, and the first type I knew about was the seat attachment/replacement

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        There are dozens of choices that work great for twenty some dollars online here in the US and don’t even replace the seat.

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        I got a $400 one, and it was the best $400 I’ve ever spent. It’s something I use every day, and damn does it improve my day just a little bit more.

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    There are a large number of Americans that think:

    1. Anything touching them there makes them gay - still not sure how your hand and TP is any different
    2. It will hurt - yeah… IDK
    3. It’s gross, or it doesn’t get you clean - uh…wiping some paper on it does? how???
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      I find wiping just doesn’t do it for me… I can wipe myself raw and still have itching…

      But a trip to the bidet clears it all up.

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      Same as in Thailand, Japan, Cambodia, Malaysia, Singapore, India, Pakistan, Iran, China… Yeah it’s most of the world.

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      This. In my part of the world, Nordics. No one has it, except really old bathrooms that have a separate bowl with o detachable shower head. But I only saw that once in my life. I installed one a year ago and it’s a game changer.

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    It’s a matter of planning and availability. In my country people don’t renovate their houses often and even rarely build them from scratch. Having a bidet requires planning and leaving space for it. Japanese style toilet seats are easier to install in smaller toilets, but they require electricity and/or hot water.

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        There’s a lot of misunderstanding in this thread. Normal bidets that you buy on Amazon just get fitted under the toilet seat and connected to the water line that drives the toilet. There is no electricity wiring or extra .doodads needed

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          Unless you want heated water. My bathroom water gets pretty damn cold in the winter, but honestly, you get used to it. I don’t have hot water to my bidet, but I survive

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            This right here. Winters can be really cold and I think with water that cold my anus could cut rebar.

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            I purchased a bidet insert that has a valve that can intake hot and cold water (2 pipes) and output a medium temperature as part of the bidet. It was slightly more expensive, but in winter, is worth it. No electricity needed.

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            Same here. Warm water might be even better, but I don’t want to know so that I can continue installing dirt cheap bidets that require no extra work or plumbing :)

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        Yeah, because they have many nice features, from warming the seat to drying and washing.

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      I’ve had no issues with the cheap $20-40 USD bidets from Amazon, while I’m sure the fanciness of a heated bidet would change my life I don’t see the need.

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        When you say bidet you are referring to a toilet seat with water or separate wash head next to toilet. When I say bidet am referring to what french call bidet, a separate toilet-like utensil next to toilet. Those things require planning and space since they require drainage, water source, etc.

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          I think it’s more common now to call a bidet insert a bidet. So just an inser that you fasten between the seat and bowl with an arm for turning on and off the spray. That connects to a T adapter at the inlet on the toilet. Works really good and costs 20-80€/$

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      Japanese style toilet seats

      That’s what most people in the USA mean when they say bidet. They’re bidet toilet seats or washlets.

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    I was overseas and recovering from surgery. I’d never seen a bidet before arriving in Argentina a few days before, so I still wasn’t used to them.

    In any case, I was sitting on this bidet at 3am or something, on painkillers, and almost falling asleep while I sit there. I’m leaning forward, and turn the bidet, and it turns out this bidet has a jet of water almost powerful to reach the roof. And because of the angle I was sitting at, I get this jet of high pressure water right on my clit. I’m pretty sure the noise I made woke most of the neighbours! It was not a fun experience

    That being said, I’d still get one here in Australia if I could :)

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          Why do people always act like it’s super difficult to find the clit?

          Look at a medical textbook, put your face between her legs and you’ll see where it is. It really isn’t that hard.

          I’m aware there are men who are so caught up with toxic masculinity that eating out a woman is not an option, and they probably actually are unable to find the clit. But do people really say “look at me, I’m a toxic person who isn’t able to pleasure their partner because of it” about themselves as a joke?

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            Not wanting to eat out their significant other isn’t necessarily correlated to toxic masculinity; I think you’re conflating two different things. It’s possible to be selfish completely unrelated to toxic masculinity. Not every instance of a male doing something wrong is attributable to toxic masculinity.

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              So people are saying “look at me, I’m selfish” as a joke?

              You’re completely right that not every bad behaviour in a male is toxic masculinity. And a completely non-sexist person may just not want to do it out of pure selfishness. However there are plenty of jokes about the gayness of a man eating out a woman. I’m pretty sure these topics are closely related. The logic of those men usually looks like this:

              Eating a woman out => submissive => weak => bad

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            I LOVE eating out a woman. My woman is 8 months pregnant and I havent eaten pussy in most of that time and it’s killing me lol

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              I haven’t eaten anyone out in over a year, and I also miss it. It’s super fun seeing the other person being pleasured by my actions.

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            No idea tbh. It’s not hard to find. Sure it’s hidden under a good but it’s not exactly hard to see. Learning how to use it though seems to be more of a mystery. I mean shit, the majority of the time my wife struggles to know what she does and doesn’t like.

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      You can definitely get one in Australia. They are like $30 on the internet delivered right to your house and attach to your toilet in under 5 min.

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        Those ones aren’t even close to the same. They’re not worth the effort in my experience

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    In the US, mostly because of the associations with prostitutes made by American soldiers in Europe during WWII. They were frequently called “whore’s baths”. Personally, I love mine and hate having to use a toilet without one.

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    I once read a book where this particular bathroom appliance was very intimately connected with prostitutes throughout history and that association created a big push against having it in every house. It was an interesting read.

    In my country in particular, it became mandatory in every newly built house starting around the 50s and later it became mandatory to have one bidet and one bathtub in every house.

    This was pushed to enforce a notion of hygiene that was lacking, as the country was very poor at the time. Paradoxically, it was easier to have higher standards of hygiene in the country, where access to water was easier and the field labour demanded a minimal cleanliness to be at the table and socially than in the growing cities, where poor living conditions made very difficult for the poor to access running water.