It’s different in the case of October 7th because we know a significant number of Israeli civilian casualties was inflicted by IDF shelling or reckless fire.
Oh, we do know that, do we? Do you have any actual numbers to back this claim up?
Oh I thought you meant Hamas released their casualty numbers. I’ll just say that when you see “Israeli casualty ratio” most people will think “casualty ratio in October 7th”, not “ratio of casualties inflicted by Israel”, and same for “Hamas casualty ratio”.
Oh, we do know that, do we? Do you have any actual numbers to back this claim up?
So while there are no concrete numbers, we do know it happened in a significant capacity.
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/759856/Israel-s-IDF-ordered-to-prevent-Hamas-from-returning-to-Gaza
(contains the Hebrew article and a translation in the comments).
Current Israeli numbers of Hamas’s attack by social security data.
Oh, we do know that, do we? Do you have any actual numbers to back this claim up?
Oh I thought you meant Hamas released their casualty numbers. I’ll just say that when you see “Israeli casualty ratio” most people will think “casualty ratio in October 7th”, not “ratio of casualties inflicted by Israel”, and same for “Hamas casualty ratio”.
So while there are no concrete numbers, we do know it happened in a significant capacity.
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/a-growing-number-of-reports-indicate-israeli-forces-responsible-for-israeli-civilian-and-military-deaths-following-october-7-attack/ (source is for some reason rated badly on MBFC, but I think that’s more of MBFC’s bias, and either way all claims are separately sourced).
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/another-israeli-witness-confirms-israeli-tanks-killed-own-citizens-on-oct-7/3079514
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/759856/Israel-s-IDF-ordered-to-prevent-Hamas-from-returning-to-Gaza
(contains the Hebrew article and a translation in the comments).