• snekerpimp@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Should classify people who hoard wealth mentally unstable. What’s the difference between hoarding fake little pieces of green paper and shoes? Evidently hoarding shoes won’t make you a powerful demigod.

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      10 months ago

      There’s very little actual paper. It’s just numbers on a computer screen. They’re hoarding numbers made of light. Resulting in the rest of us getting screwed.

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        10 months ago

        There’s very little light. They’re hoarding bits of electromagnetic patterns on silicon wafers and platters shoved into noisy boxes

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        10 months ago

        They’re hoarding IOU claims on resources.

        That’s why it’s a problem for everybody else.

        It they were just meaningless numbers with no real link back to things which are scarce, it would be absolutelly fine (unhealthy for them but fine for everybody else).

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          10 months ago

          Keep in going down layer after layer and you’ll ultimatelly find it’s all ownership claims on limited resources and the products made from such resources and trillions of man hours of work (which in turn also boils down to the resource which is “time”, specifically “fractions of human life”).

          Also there’s quite a lot of things directly and indirectly owned that whilst abstract and naturaly infinite, were made scarce by Laws, such as copyrighted materials (which could otherwise be freely duplicated) or brands who are only worth something due to trademark (as otherwise anybody could use any brand mark, so brand marks would have no recognition or trust value).

    • 𝔹𝕝𝕒𝕔𝕜 𝕊𝕜𝕚𝕟𝕟𝕖𝕕 𝕁𝕖𝕨@lemmynsfw.com
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      10 months ago

      They are not hoarding anything at all, the actual economic system it’s sustained in nothing else than zeros into an electronic bank account, so basically all their wealth didn’t physically exist, the modern economic system it’s just a well made fallacy to keep all the shit working together cos probably no one knows what will happen when everything goes to the fuck.

      IDK why people still believe wealth it’s equal to physical shit like we was still in the XV century, nowdays wealth it’s equal to a bunch of zeros in an electronic bank account which aren’t real, they are just real at the level of keeping the wheel spinning and nothing else.

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        10 months ago

        Fake or real, the mental urge for them to harm environment and society just to get a few more tick marks on that spreadsheet makes them mentally unstable.

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      No, we really shouldn’t, it just makes light of real mental illness and deepens the existing stigma against those who actually have it.

      Being a selfish and privileged fuck is not a mental illness, it is the product of a system deliberately designed to enable their existence and behaviour.

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        I think being selfish is a fucking mental illness, it hurts the person and society in the long run.

        This is not meant in jest, and it’s not just because I don’t like it, there is really something wrong with someone who could buy the world multiple times over and still feel like they need more money. They are mentally unstable to want all of something. You don’t need all of something.

        So again, what is the difference between someone who needs all the bottle caps in the world and someone who needs all the money?

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          Exactly. If we were researching monkeys and one of those monkeys was inexplicably obsessed with hoarding all the bananas away from everyone else, even through violence, even though the pile of bananas obtained could dwarf the Pyramids of Giza, and they were all going bad anyway, while the other monkeys starved…

          We’d say there’s something very, very wrong with that monkey.

          But it wouldn’t get that far, because the rest of the troupe would exile that one or beat them to death to preserve the rest of the community.

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          So again, what is the difference between someone who needs all the bottle caps in the world and someone who needs all the money?

          Having all the bottle caps literally provides you with nothing while having all the money gives you ultimate and unlimited power over everyone else on the fucking plant, are you being serious right now?

          Also, and again - “not right” doesn’t equal mental illness, no matter how many times you repeat it.

          I seriously doubt you’re a trained psychiatrist or even psychologist, stop armchair diagnosing, and you are also wilfully and deliberately ignoring all of the systemic influences that create billionaires and their psychology, you don’t have the knowledge nor the tools to make the assertions you’re so confidently making and by doing so throwing mentally ill people under the bus, all because the world is too complex and uncomfortable for you to deal with without finding a scapegoat.

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        it’s crazy how obsessed the american founding fathers were with protecting private property, as if it was the end-all, be-all value of the time.