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The Sunshine State governor made a similar comment recently when he warned that Maine’s ruling disqualifying Trump ‘opens up Pandora’s box’
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has revealed that he’s “looking” into ways to block President Joe Biden from the 2024 primary ballot in Florida.
“This is just going to be a tit for tat and it’s just not gonna end well,” the GOP presidential candidate warned Friday alongside Rep. Chip Roy, R-TX, according to a video posted by CNN. “You could make a case — I’m actually looking at this in Florida now [if we] could we make a credible case” to block Biden from the ballot “because of the invasion of 8 million.”
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But like…that’s the thing. They have to look for a credible case to remove their political opponents. In contrast, the reason to remove Trump is self-evident, even to Republicans.
Yep. If there was a credible case, it would already be motoring through the court.
“This is just going to be a tit for tat and it’s just not gonna end well,”
I still can’t get over a political leader admitting to abusing the power of his office for personal spite, and not being removed from office
Personal spite, hell try personal gain. Don’t forget this asshole is running for president. Should hit him with election tampering.
“But he started it!” /s
Hey hey guys wait maybe he’s got a point…
…Let’s remove ALL of them from the ballot and purge all the old money from politics to find candidates that actually represent the people of their nation. 🤔
If only we could then dump that campaign money into schools and a national train system…
I get the sentiment, but using the Justice Department to illegally remove a political candidate who hasn’t broken the law (talking about Biden here)!? Yeah, there’s no way that gets abused…
Seriously. I’m fine with not having an 80 year old run this country when any other time they wouldn’t even be considered for a job.
Honestly. Republicans are nothing but a bunch of children.
Seriously. American politics is nothing but embarrassment upon embarrassment upon embarrassment. world shaking head
“Credible”… Can you define that Mr. DeSantis?
Everyone keeps forgetting about the part of the constitution that bars you from holding office if you are a Democrat.
Of course this was going to happen, at least in their speech. The difference of course is that there’s absolutely no legally valid reason to remove Biden from anything, whereas there are plenty of legal, ethical, culinary and aesthetic reasons to remove Trump from this planet into the sun.
… Culinary??
The manchild served fastfood (McDonalds) out of the whitehouse kitchen to honored guests, instead of, you know, real food.
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Eh, I don’t think it’s that bad, if that’s what the guests (IIRC, NFL players) wanted to eat.
What fucking grosses me out is hearing about Trump’s diet. He eats McD daily, but he doesn’t eat the bun. I have no idea how someone in his seventies that lives on diet coke, McDonald’s, spray tan, and hate is still alive…
It’s the hate.
What do these idiots have against immigrants ? they’re immigrants themselves
They don’t see it that way.
If you are born somewhere are you still an immigrant tho
By your logic everyone everywhere is an immigrant
If you can reasonably trace your ancestors and they came from a very different country than the one you live in, then you don’t have much of a right to complain. People used to complain about Italians and Irish coming to the U.S. as well and now the people with Irish and Italian ancestry will complain about immigrants while celebrating their own “heritage.”
That makes me laugh every time. I told my coworker that my family has been on this continent longer than her and in fact have been on this piece of land longer than her since it was part of Mexico before the US took it. Heck I’m from native ancestry (couldn’t trace it exactly), even before borders my ancestors have been roaming these lands. Shut her up for a minute but she’s very passive aggressive and self victimizing as a Caucasian republican.
If DeSantis were even remotely serious about his Presidential campaign this wouldn’t be the play. Trump being removed from the ballot would not require retaliation and would be good for him. But let’s be honest here. He’s known he’s not running a Presidental campaign for months now. He cratered. The best old puddin’ fingers can hope for is somehow getting Trump to pick him for VP.
All the Republican candidates, except Christie, want to stay in Trump’s good graces - they know they can’t win if he so much as sneezes at them so they grovel at his feet and just hope he gets disqualified on a technicality.
Do normal people openly and candidly characterize their own motivations as “tit for tat”? I thought that was typically pejorative.
Of course he’s looking to make a case. The difference here is that he can’t actually make a credible one, all he can do is just say “Because reasons” and hope nobody looks too closely at it.
What do we mean when we say that first of all we seek liberty? I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon constitutions, upon laws and upon courts. These are false hopes; believe me, these are false hopes. Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it. While it lies there it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it.
— Hon. Billings Learned Hand
When we have devolved to “tit for tat” when we’re no longer looking for liberty and justice. There is nothing our Constitution can do, there isn’t some magic arrangement of words written by long dead men that saves us, that saves our notions of liberty and justice.
It will not be denied, that power is of an encroaching nature, and that it ought to be effectually restrained from passing the limits assigned to it.
— James Madison (Federalist 48)
James Madison is talking about power-grabs here. He’s stating that, there’s never going to be some magic law written down on paper that’s going to stop power-grabs. People, the people we put into to power, the people who have the trust of the public. People That’s it. That’s all there is. That’s the only thing that stops it. And when the people aren’t there to stop it…
You cannot.
This is why this kind of talk is dangerous. This is why making it personal and not looking to protect the public is bad. Because, like it or not, people like DeSantis, if they’re not defending this nation, if they are simply looking to “tit for tat” to make some sort of point. They hold a mighty amount of trust and they’re using it to be on the look out for retribution rather justice.
There aren’t any magic words in the Constitution, it’s inside our heads that matters. This is the stuff that starts getting sobering.
Do you post any writing online? I’d like to hear more. Your quotes and analysis were pretty poetic.
I felt the same. I wish we could give this person the voice to give speeches at national assemblies.
In the US, the Democratic caucus season is approaching in March in my state. Anyone can attend and they hold elections for local and state party offices. It’s probably one of the few settings where a persuasive and savvy speaker can use that to directly get to a position to help select people to run for offices.
In a protracted, passive-aggressive civil war scenario such as we face now, influencing local and state officers to hold the line on basic decency can make all the difference over time.
I get it, the national party sucks. I hold my nose on many issues and I am not a dyed in the wool D. However, if you want to do more than vote you can make a vast difference in school board, city and county level offices.
In the 2023 mid-terms, our school boards balance of power against a slate of MAGA candidates hinged on less than 100 votes. I talked directly to about that many people during about 6 total hours of GOTV canvassing. I didn’t turn the election single-handedly of course, but it is gratifying to be able to point to a good electoral outcome and see directly how my efforts contributed. That’s hard to say when volunteering for national and governor level offices.
republicans don’t run on credibility.
they’re practically immune to credibility, let alone merely blind to it.
Yes please, remove both Trump and Biden. Let the young people come and run the country.
That’s hilariously desperate.
